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| re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) | |
| Posted by: Christopher 03:04 pm EST 01/19/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) - Chazwaza 02:59 pm EST 01/19/18 | |
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| Did you get conceptually why the original production was set in a factory? | |
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| re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 03:43 pm EST 01/19/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) - Christopher 03:04 pm EST 01/19/18 | |
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| Umm... 100%. Did you not? | |
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| re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 06:37 pm EST 01/19/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) - Chazwaza 03:43 pm EST 01/19/18 | |
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| I suspect that Christopher is making the point that if you had no trouble with conceptual space being a factory even though "It makes no sense dramatically to set the entire show, which is by no means all in one location, in the one location," then this shouldn't any more of a stretch. A site-specific production of Sweeney Todd is a good idea. I'm firmly in the "enjoyed it" camp. |
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| re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 08:56 pm EST 01/19/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) - MockingbirdGirl 06:37 pm EST 01/19/18 | |
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| But the factory is a metaphor... it's not setting the whole show in one of the actual locations IN the show. It *added* something. I'm not saying it COULDN'T work performing it in a pie shop. |
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| re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 09:23 pm EST 01/19/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) - Chazwaza 08:56 pm EST 01/19/18 | |
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| Well, as dlevy has pointed out, the whole show isn't set in the pie shop -- it's performed in a pie shop. For instance, the contest with Pirelli still takes place elsewhere. | |
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| re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 04:29 am EST 01/20/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) - MockingbirdGirl 09:23 pm EST 01/19/18 | |
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| Yes - to be fair, I said "performed in" , and otherwise was using dlevy's word... in the original, it isn't all "set" in the factory, it is performed in it, but there are several locations, and the scenes that take place in them take place in them. In fact none of the scenes actually take place in the factor except perhaps the transitions. | |
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| re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 12:19 pm EST 01/20/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) - Chazwaza 04:29 am EST 01/20/18 | |
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| What I'm getting from this conversation is that the pie shop has no actual conceptual meaning in this production - it's just a space in which the play is performed. In the original, the factory setting was integral to Prince's understanding of the play and the story it was telling. Whether we need that extra layer of "industrial capitalism is built upon canabalism" is up for debate, but it was central to Prince's story. | |
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| re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) | |
| Posted by: singleticket 01:08 pm EST 01/20/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Sweeney Todd" (Spoilers) - Singapore/Fling 12:19 pm EST 01/20/18 | |
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| Whether we need that extra layer of "industrial capitalism is built upon canabalism" is up for debate, but it was central to Prince's story. Yes, that was definitely what was in the original production. But it didn't feel didactic because much of the way the idea was developed was through production design. And as I remember it there was a kind of Rube Goldberg like slit-throat delivery-system-to-the kitchen that Sweeney had rigged. But that may have been in the original Penny Dreadful/Grande Guignol source material. Even if it was, it was a brilliant layer to the original production because in an instant it was chilling, historical resonant and fun. |
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