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re: that's not what i said
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 02:22 pm EST 01/26/18
In reply to: that's not what i said - Chazwaza 01:48 pm EST 01/26/18

"You're missing my key point which I do think was pretty specifically laid out... it has to have ben *for that property*."

No, I got that point completely. Not sure why you think I missed it.

"But if you're applying this specifically to Camelot and saying that because 'If Ever I Would Love You' was in Camelot the stage musical and became a known song (i'm confused because you said the 50s, and Camelot premiered in 1960 - I'm not sure to what extent the song was a stand alone "pop hit" but if so it wasn't in the 50s) from that show or cast recording, and so it shouldn't be eligible for a film award when the show it was written for becomes a film that it's included in... then i VERY much disagree with you,

Yes, that's what I'm saying, and yes, we very much disagree. Which is fine. (P.S. I know that CAMELOT opened in 1960; what I wrote about the 1950s was a more general reference to old songs.)

"And are you saying that if the song had not become a breakout hit from the original then it SHOULD be eligible?"

No, I'm saying a song that was originally written for and appeared in a stage musical should not be eligible as "Best Song" for the movie version regardless of whether or not the song became a hit before the movie was made. I just meant that, with a song that DID become a hit before the movie was made, to me it's even more obvious why it should not be eligible for a "Best Song" Oscar.

As I'm sure you know, the film version of LADY IN THE DARK cut virtually the entire score. If someone were to make a new film of LADY IN THE DARK that included the song "This Is New," would you say that song should be eligible for a "Best Song" Oscar?
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