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re: to be honest
Posted by: Chazwaza 06:17 pm EST 01/26/18
In reply to: re: to be honest - BruceinIthaca 03:26 pm EST 01/26/18

And that's a fair observation... but I don't agree that's an issue *because* they were written for that property when it was original in another medium! Musicals that originated as film musicals, in my opinion and argument, have the same problem of being unfairly excluded from the credits and the awards eligibility for writing. The score, and even especially the lyrics because they make up so much of what is communicated with words in a musical movie, are such a significant part of the writing and screenplay... it's insane to me that for the entire score to a musical the only thing the songwriters are eligible for is one "Best Song" win (or one to several song nominations, but not early the whole score) or "Best Score" if the composer happened to also write the film's underscore, which is uncommon.

I'm not sure exactly what your issue would be with "a history of "Climb Every Mountain," "Tonight," and "Luck Be a Lady" having been nominees" or why that misses "the point"... these are all great songs in films, written for the material that film was made from and not repurposed from another property or from an album not related to the material. If the point is for a song written for the movie, these songs are written for the movie too, they are not from something else and added to the movie version. One could make a case for a huge different between a song written to be played IN a movie, under a scene or sequence vs a song written to be sung outside of reality, like a musical, where the character breaks into song. So if that doesn't happen, what misses the point when eligible best songs include "I Need to Wake Up" played during An Inconvenient Truth and "Listen" sung in character in story, non-diegetically, in Dreamgirls? Why do the Dreamgirls song noms not miss the point of the award? Dreamgirls writers and producers decided the movie version needed "Listen" just as they decided it needed "And I am Telling You"... and both song were written for the property of Dreamgirls the Musical. Help me here...
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