| re: cf. THE PRISONER OF ZENDA (1894), which DAVE bears more of a resemblance to. (NM) | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 12:03 pm EST 01/27/18 | |
| In reply to: re: cf. THE PRISONER OF ZENDA (1894), which DAVE bears more of a resemblance to. (NM) - NewtonUK 09:44 am EST 01/27/18 | |
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| Respectfully, you don't understand the difference between a "plot engine" and a "set-up" (and to be fair, neither do a lot of early writers). A plot is built upon a series of actions, usually driven by cause and effect, usually driven by some sort of goal, usually encountering some sort of disruption and/or reversal, and ending in some sort of climactic choice and/or action. Two gangs fighting with star crossed lovers is not the plot of "West Side Story" (nor is it a dramatic situation per se). The plot of "West Side Story" is that a boy from one gang meets a girl from another gang at a dance, and then he woos her on her balcony, and then they get caught up in the larger war between the two gangs, etc. That's also the action by action plot of "Romeo", which is why it's an adaptation. Not every story that features gangs and lovers is a version of "Romeo", only the ones that follow the same structural template as "Romeo". Simply having the same basic idea or starting point as another work is not the same thing as adapting that earlier work. I don't know "Phantom President". It is possible that "Dave" uses the earlier work for its dramatic engine, but you haven't shown us enough similarities to make that case. What is the actual plot of "Phantom President" story beat by story beat? What is the new president's goal and what is his journey? What is the action by action structure? Do the two films share the same major turning points, the same villain, the same love story told in the same way, the same dramatic solutions to the same problems? Surely if it did, all of this would have been noticed at the time the film came out. Still, it's possible no one else realizes this but you. So, please, make the case conclusively. So far, you've only shown us that "Dave" uses the set-up of "Phantom President", which isn't enough to base your claim on. |
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