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Should MCC offer refunds for subjecting paying theatergoers to rehearsals with script-in-hand?
Posted by: summertheater 09:01 pm EST 02/10/18

Look at the terrible reviews on ShowScore for MCC's newest show Relevance. They talk of actors with script in hand, scripts constantly being revised, actors calling for lines, etc. This is utterly shameful. If a script is in hand, then it's a rehearsal and not a performance. They should just shut this show down until they are ready for a performance, and provide refunds to anyone who's already attended. Clearly this author was not up to the task for the "prime time" of off-Broadway.
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re: Should MCC offer refunds for subjecting paying theatergoers to rehearsals with script-in-hand?
Posted by: BruceinIthaca 10:25 am EST 02/11/18
In reply to: Should MCC offer refunds for subjecting paying theatergoers to rehearsals with script-in-hand? - summertheater 09:01 pm EST 02/10/18

I will take issue with your generalization that "if script is in hand, then it's a rehearsal and not a performance." There are productions where the aesthetic involves the presence of the script--Gurney's Love Letters, the 1950's version of Shaw's Don Juan in Hell, and so forth. I have no idea if that's the case with this show, but your "argument" (and I use that term VERY loosely) is an almost perfect example of a faulty syllogism:

Premise: A performance is only one where all roles are memorized.
Premise: Relevance uses scripts.
Conclusion: Relevance is not a performance.

Your major premise is not one that is universally accepted. Therefore, though you think you have made a logical argument, you have not. I would expect nothing less (or more?) based on your habitual postings in which you chide the NY theatre community for not scheduling shows at times convenient to you and, therefore, by your logic, inconvenient to all other theatre goers and destined to fail. Same with your ditherings about racism and other sins you perceive on stage. A refresher course in basic logic and argument might not be a bad idea--maybe you could invest in one until the subway work is done or the Shuberts decide to move all theatres to your neighborhood.
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re: Should MCC offer refunds for subjecting paying theatergoers to rehearsals with script-in-hand?
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 04:48 pm EST 02/11/18
In reply to: re: Should MCC offer refunds for subjecting paying theatergoers to rehearsals with script-in-hand? - BruceinIthaca 10:25 am EST 02/11/18

"I will take issue with your generalization that 'if script is in hand, then it's a rehearsal and not a performance.' There are productions where the aesthetic involves the presence of the script--Gurney's Love Letters, the 1950's version of Shaw's Don Juan in Hell, and so forth. I have no idea if that's the case with this show, but your 'argument' (and I use that term VERY loosely) is an almost perfect example of a faulty syllogism."

Good point, but I would say (at the risk of stating the obvious) that an early performance of a show that does NOT have the presence of script as part of its aesthetic, but has one or more of the cast members using scripts anyway (because of last minute changes or whatever), is a show that's arguably not ready for an audience, even if you object to the description of it as "not a performance." Of course there are exceptions, including productions that have limited rehearsal time and make it clear to the audience ahead of time that scripts may be used -- as, for example, was the case at Encores! until a few years ago.
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How do you know they did not? Did you see the show and ask for one?
Posted by: ryhog 10:24 pm EST 02/10/18
In reply to: Should MCC offer refunds for subjecting paying theatergoers to rehearsals with script-in-hand? - summertheater 09:01 pm EST 02/10/18

From the sound of it, your post is based on what you read from a few people who saw the show. Unclear to me why you care.

You also grossly misrepresent the reviews, 75% of which are positive and none of which are negative. And even worse, you malign a writer who was reviewed favorably by most, again apparently without seeing the show.
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re: How do you know they did not? Did you see the show and ask for one?
Posted by: gothamplaygoer 11:26 pm EST 02/10/18
In reply to: How do you know they did not? Did you see the show and ask for one? - ryhog 10:24 pm EST 02/10/18

The production is so polished with a great set, excellent projections, fine costumes, assured direction and, most of all, fine acting that the unfinished nature of the script sticks out like a sore thumb. Another show rushed into production before it was ready.
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re: How do you know they did not? Did you see the show and ask for one?
Posted by: ryhog 12:23 am EST 02/11/18
In reply to: re: How do you know they did not? Did you see the show and ask for one? - gothamplaygoer 11:26 pm EST 02/10/18

Thanks for posting that. Of course, nothing you say backs up the OP's points, but I would not expect it to.
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