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re: The Greatest Showman is in the Top 5 at the box office again (spoiler alert, maybe)
Posted by: waterfall 09:36 pm EST 02/10/18
In reply to: re: The Greatest Showman is in the Top 5 at the box office again - Singapore/Fling 07:19 pm EST 02/10/18

"And the message. And the story. And the performances. And the dancing. And the movie as a whole."

Bingo! I couldn't hum a song from the show upon threat of death. Not fond of the musical style, personally, but it suited the movie well enough. As far as the message goes, well, the real Barnum almost certainly took advantage of his freaks rather than uplifting them, but he also was never a ringmaster, to my knowledge, and was a rather dumpy-looking man who (SPOILER ALERT!) Jenny Lind never set lips on (END SPOILER ALERT!)

I cast all that aside and went along for the ride. I quite enjoyed it. It's a feel-good, fun to watch, flashly little flick, full of smoke and mirrors, sprinkled wirh glitter and sequins, tied up with a happy ending bow.

What's not to like?
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I was sitting behind Ina Garten and Jeffrey at the theatre and she said the same thing...
Posted by: Jax 02:34 pm EST 02/11/18
In reply to: re: The Greatest Showman is in the Top 5 at the box office again (spoiler alert, maybe) - waterfall 09:36 pm EST 02/10/18

"What's not to like?" Seriously, no matter what you think of the film (I was less impressed with it than one of Ina's cupcakes), its' enormous success (yes, it's getting to that point, enormous) bodes well for the original musical in Hollywood where things always run in cycles. It should be easier to get real life (not animated), original projects off the ground now for a couple of years. IF they have scores by hot young composing teams. So there's some icing on this cupcake, even if you hated the movie.

How easy is that?
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re: The Greatest Showman is in the Top 5 at the box office again (spoiler alert, maybe)
Last Edit: WaymanWong 01:42 pm EST 02/11/18
Posted by: WaymanWong 01:39 pm EST 02/11/18
In reply to: re: The Greatest Showman is in the Top 5 at the box office again (spoiler alert, maybe) - waterfall 09:36 pm EST 02/10/18

''What's not to like?'' Pretty much all that stuff you cast aside: the whitewashing of Barnum's character and history, etc.

Which is why critics largely panned it (55% at Rotten Tomatoes). But audiences don't care if it's fake or fictionalized.

And that's something Barnum knew: how to sell a show. Or as he was often misattributed as saying, ''There's ...
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re: "the whitewashing of Barnum's character and history, etc."
Posted by: waterfall 04:10 pm EST 02/11/18
In reply to: re: The Greatest Showman is in the Top 5 at the box office again (spoiler alert, maybe) - WaymanWong 01:39 pm EST 02/11/18

I respect your distaste for the historical, actual man, but I don't look for history in my entertainment, and I hardly view this movie as a tribute to what a great man Barnum was.

I look at this the same way as I look at Titanic - a popular movie using an historical background to tell a story that had little to do with reality. They probably could just as easily done it without Barnum's name, but they, like Barnum, were savvy, and know how to sell a show. Barnum and Bailey is out of business, forever. I don't have any issue about someone making money off his name and using it to convey (however cynically) another message
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re: The Greatest Showman is in the Top 5 at the box office again (spoiler alert, maybe)
Posted by: KingSpeed 10:35 pm EST 02/10/18
In reply to: re: The Greatest Showman is in the Top 5 at the box office again (spoiler alert, maybe) - waterfall 09:36 pm EST 02/10/18

The music has struck a chord with the masses and that's why people are returning.
Link It's the music
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re: The Greatest Showman is in the Top 5 at the box office again (spoiler alert, maybe)
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 01:25 am EST 02/11/18
In reply to: re: The Greatest Showman is in the Top 5 at the box office again (spoiler alert, maybe) - KingSpeed 10:35 pm EST 02/10/18

Just because you say something doesn't make it true. And the link you offer doesn't back up your claim either - it simply tells us that the soundtrack is successful.

The question is why they movie is doing so well. Yes, the music is a part of that, but it's surely not the only reason, and you'd have to offer some real evidence to support the claim that it is. I know from people that I know who have gone to see the film numerous times that they're going for more than just the songs.
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re: The Greatest Showman is in the Top 5 at the box office again (spoiler alert, maybe)
Posted by: TheOtherOne 11:30 pm EST 02/10/18
In reply to: re: The Greatest Showman is in the Top 5 at the box office again (spoiler alert, maybe) - KingSpeed 10:35 pm EST 02/10/18

"This Is Me" and "Rewrite the Stars" are great songs. I didn't care much for the rest of the score. The film's overall family musical vibe seems to me to be what is pulling in the crowds.
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re: The Greatest Showman is in the Top 5 at the box office again (spoiler alert, maybe)
Posted by: Singapore/Fling 01:28 am EST 02/11/18
In reply to: re: The Greatest Showman is in the Top 5 at the box office again (spoiler alert, maybe) - TheOtherOne 11:30 pm EST 02/10/18

Oh yeah, all the kids in the front few rows of my theater loved it. Crazy loved it.
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