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| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 03:15 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
| In reply to: Would that it were annual. - ryhog 03:04 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
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| I'm still surprised people take Summertheater seriously on most issues, but in this case, Summertheater is surprisingly on the ball. It is true that in the past few weeks, the train schedules have shifted such that after 9:30 pm, one's commute time can double. It's common after 9:30pm to encounter trains stalling out for 5 minutes at a time between stations, trains that no longer run on the track that they're supposed to, and trains that stop at earlier destinations than usual. You notice this even in Manhattan, and it only gets worse once you cross a river. It doesn't quite affect my decisions about seeing shows (and often I don't have a choice about when I see things, because they're for work), but it has increased my willingness to leave at intermission if possible, it has made me grateful for shows that run under 90 minutes, and it's completely ruled out attending anything with a late-night start. |
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| re: Would that it were annual. | |
| Posted by: Ncassidine 06:25 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Would that it were annual. - Singapore/Fling 03:15 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
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| How many people in the audience are going back to the outer boroughs vs. hopping the NJ Transit/cab/hotel or live in Manhattan? | |
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| re: Would that it were annual. | |
| Posted by: Billhaven 03:55 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Would that it were annual. - Singapore/Fling 03:15 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
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| I'm not sure why you all keep debating having the curtain at an earlier time. Margaritaville is in PREVIEWS. They have to start at 8. They have a full day of rehearsal and are required to have a break of 11/2 hours or dinner. If you look on their schedule you will see that they go to a 7 PM schedule once they open after March 15.Their scheduling has nothing to do with trains or suburban folks or Summertheater's wishes and dreams. | |
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| re: Would that it were annual. | |
| Posted by: summertheater 04:17 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Would that it were annual. - Billhaven 03:55 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
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| Can someone help me understand the math? (Since I don't work in theater I don't know what the Equity rules are.) Someone else posted a 12 hour break between end of show & start of rehearsal. Now we see 1.5 hours for dinner after rehearsal is also required. So (I am guessing here): A show starts at 8pm and ends 10:30pm Monday night. That means rehearsal cannot start until 10:30am Tuesday. Rehearsal goes until 6:30pm Tuesday, then show starts 8pm Tuesday. If this is correct, what would stop Equity from allowing the following: A show starts at 7pm and ends 9:30pm Monday night. That means rehearsal cannot start until 9:30am Tuesday. Rehearsal goes until 5:30pm Tuesday, then show starts 7pm Tuesday. |
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| re: Would that it were annual. | |
| Posted by: garyd 04:46 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Would that it were annual. - summertheater 04:17 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
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| Here. Go to page 91. These may be slightly out of date but not by much in terms of rules. Perhaps you can digest the rules and come up with a better solution. At least you will have read the rules. |
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| Link | http://www.actorsequity.org/docs/rulebooks/Production_Rulebook_League_11-15.pdf |
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| re: Would that it were annual. | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 04:15 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Would that it were annual. - Billhaven 03:55 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
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| Oh, I'm not debating moving the "Margaritaville" start time, I'm just curious about the larger question this has prompted about how our theater responds to our crumbling infrastructure. While I think that ryhog is right that the audience for this show - and perhaps for Broadway as a whole - isn't the core NY theater going audience, I do look at the non-profit world, and wonder how they'll respond to the train problem. And I'm always curious about how Manahattanites are unaware of the struggles that the rest of us face living in this city. This thread may have started around this new Jimmy Buffet musical that I have heard is the single worst thing to be foisted upon Times Square since Guy Fieri's restaurant, but I don't think many of the responses really care much about that regressive piece of "entertainment". |
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| re: Would that it were annual. | |
| Posted by: ryhog 04:30 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Would that it were annual. - Singapore/Fling 04:15 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
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| I am headed out so will be brief, but unfortunately I don't think the theatre can solve the city's infrastructure troubles. I am certainly not unaware or unfrustrated by the struggles, even though I can walk or take a bus if the trains are a mess. I missed a show last week because of a train screwup and I was just coming up from the village. Anyone who is exempt is not using transit. | |
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| re: Would that it were annual. | |
| Posted by: summertheater 04:27 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Would that it were annual. - Singapore/Fling 04:15 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
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| The theater world has responded to the subways before. If the subways are shut down due to a winter storm, the shows are cancelled. Similarly, I believe they should adapt to the major change in subway track work that was instituted a few months ago. For the past 15+ years I have been taking the subway after a show, the weeknight trackwork (with very limited exceptions) has always started at midnight. Now, a major change has occurred. Due to the crumbling infrastructure, as of approx November 2017, the subway trackwork now starts (with limited exceptions) at 9:30pm/9:45pm. Just look at Tuesday night's trackwork on the MTA website and you'll know what I mean - these are very major service disruptions as of 9:30pm/9:45pm. Total shutdowns of the system are occurring along Queens Blvd (E/F/R), Morningside Heights (#1), Ozone Park (A), and Flatbush (#2) starting 9:30pm Tuesday night. You will need to take a shuttle bus. Manhattan customers will see significant reroutes as well. |
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| re: Would that it were annual. | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 06:19 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Would that it were annual. - summertheater 04:27 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
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| Go to a weekend matinee. End of discussion. | |
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| re: Would that it were annual. | |
| Posted by: ryhog 04:40 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Would that it were annual. - summertheater 04:27 pm EST 02/11/18 | |
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| winter storms are catastrophes, and cost the theatre dearly (and sometimes disastrously). You can't respond to an ongoing crisis that way because it will kill the patient. This problem is bigger than you and bigger than the theatre, but your solution does not make the slightest bit of sense. | |
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