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| Posted by: TGWW 11:19 am EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: truly bizarre - Chazwaza 11:01 am EST 02/12/18 | |
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| I know there are people here that have no idea that life exists beyond West 45th Street but Miss Buckley co-starred in the very successful television show "Eight is Enough" and has a major role in a bonafide classic "Carrie" among her film work. She has an audience and she will knock their socks off. | |
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| Posted by: bmc 02:38 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: re: truly bizarre - TGWW 11:19 am EST 02/12/18 | |
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| Was it Ethan Mordden who said that of all the Broadway Dollys, the one who came closest to the character in terms of personal warmth was Betty Grable, who was not necessarily as memorable as Channing or Merman....I think Miss Buckley will be wonderful and I'm looking forward to seeing her; If you think it's not promising casting, you don't have to attend(or you could send a friend to 'scout' the production in advance)....They should just cast a good actress. Would you demand an actual psychotic to play Norma Desmond? | |
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| re: truly bizarre | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 02:16 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: re: truly bizarre - TGWW 11:19 am EST 02/12/18 | |
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| "I know there are people here that have no idea that life exists beyond West 45th Street but Miss Buckley co-starred in the very successful television show "Eight is Enough" and has a major role in a bonafide classic "Carrie" among her film work. " This seems to me a very odd and unnecessarily snarky comment, as people who are heavily into Broadway also have access to television and movies. |
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| re: truly bizarre | |
| Last Edit: Chazwaza 02:28 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 02:27 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: re: truly bizarre - Michael_Portantiere 02:16 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
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| It was unnecessarily snarky, especially considering how out of touch the poster is if they think Buckley is selling tickets because of a forgettable tv show that is never seen or referenced anymore and has been off the air for 35 years, or a movie she wasn't even the breakout star of from 42 years ago (classic though it is, it's not like it's Sound of Music or Mrs. Doubtfire in terms of it's play). If they are hoping to exploit that they'd have a better shot with Suzanne Somers, Delta Burke, or Kirstie Alley or as I suggested already, Phylicia Rashad. I have a feeling they are not depending on old tv shows and their fan bases for this casting choice. (and I acknowledge all of those actresses are much better known and their shows were bigger hits than Buckley/Eight is Enough, which was purposeful) |
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| Posted by: NewsGuy 11:51 am EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: re: truly bizarre - TGWW 11:19 am EST 02/12/18 | |
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| I don't disagree she has some recognition and an audience, the problem is we just see her doing....something that isn't this. Hell, she could have done the "Cats" revival - didn't even need to put on the make up, just come out as herself, sing "Memory," and get the hell off the stage. House would have been full every night. But with "Hello, Dolly," I guess we just aren't seeing that. That being said, of course, I'd love for her to be fantastic and make it worth a trip to Boston, Philadelphia, or Washington D.C. to catch the tour. Wait and see, I guess. |
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| Posted by: LegitOnce 11:35 am EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: re: truly bizarre - TGWW 11:19 am EST 02/12/18 | |
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| So she's going to sell tickets on the basis of a supporting role in a movie released more than 40 years ago and a TV series that was canceled early in the first Reagan administration? | |
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| re: truly bizarre | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 12:52 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: re: truly bizarre - LegitOnce 11:35 am EST 02/12/18 | |
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| Honestly! And it's not as if it was called "The Betty Buckley Show" or as if she was known by name for her role in the Carrie movie. I think some people really lean into the delusion that enough people really remember things like that and are willing to spend top dollar to see that actor do whatever role. I think what happened her is that they know most people will buy tickets because it's "Hello Dolly", and to ensure it's profitable they couldn't pay a bigger more sure-fire name star to do a tour, so they went with someone that probably won't discourage anyone who already wanted to come, and might encourage some just to see a (relatively lesser-known) broadway diva. However I do not think this is one of those combinations that will have people, even the ones who know her work, saying "oh my god that's PERFECT! I MUST see that!" I am going for sure because I will go with friends, and I'm *curious* about Buckley's performance in it... but not because it's a such a dynamite pairing. Nonetheless I am excited! At least it'll be different than Bette and Bernadette, both of whom I'll have seen before I see the tour. |
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| Eight is enough premiered 40 years ago in 1977 | |
| Last Edit: dramedy 11:35 am EST 02/12/18 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 11:34 am EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: re: truly bizarre - TGWW 11:19 am EST 02/12/18 | |
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| Ended in 81. Hardly a series or role on most Americans radar these days. | |
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| And does it matter? | |
| Posted by: Ann 12:07 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: Eight is enough premiered 40 years ago in 1977 - dramedy 11:34 am EST 02/12/18 | |
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| Tours rarely have names/stars and it's possible the buzz created by the Broadway production will continue on for touring cities, even without a name like Bette or Bernadette. | |
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| I posted that last week | |
| Posted by: dramedy 03:19 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: And does it matter? - Ann 12:07 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
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| It's most likely in subscription houses and has a locked in minimum return. It's part of San Fran best of Broadway series. As for me, I saw carol 3 times and Bette once and Donna Murphy once. The part requires a larger than life persona in my opinion. I won't be seeing the tour. |
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| Yes, all those people who subscribed so they could get Hamilton tickets that season, this season, next, or beyond | |
| Posted by: Ann 03:22 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: I posted that last week - dramedy 03:19 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
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| I wonder how long they'll stick around, once Hamilton goes through (another discussion, I know). I don't think it's beyond all reason that Buckley could do a fine job. She's actually a bigger name than I thought they'd get for the tour. I was just telling someone over the weekend about seeing Victoria Clark as Dolly (I thought she was quite good), and he said he thought she lacked the warmth necessary. It can work. |
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| re: And does it matter? | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 12:55 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: And does it matter? - Ann 12:07 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
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| True, and this should not have been expected to be an exception, especially with such a hit title and revival as Hello Dolly. However my surprise isn't so much that it's someone without a recognizable name to the larger audiences, but more that it's someone so seemingly mis-matched with the role and the needs of the show. Especially on the road. |
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| re: And does it matter? | |
| Posted by: AC126748 12:28 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: And does it matter? - Ann 12:07 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
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| Buckley is certainly known among those who follow theater, and I'm sure she has a residual fan base from her decades in film and television. There are also plenty of people who are going to see HELLO DOLLY because it's HELLO DOLLY, with no regard for who's in the lead. Doesn't that just about cover everyone? |
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| re: And does it matter? | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 01:03 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: re: And does it matter? - AC126748 12:28 pm EST 02/12/18 | |
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| No, certainly not. There are, I would think, a TON of people who would go IF someone they love is doing it -- be that Reba, or Patricia Heaton (just pulling that out of nowhere), or Felicia Rashad... people who might not know Hello Dolly (I know, sounds crazy, but unless you saw/like the movie (as I do), or have gone to a school or regional production of the show since the 60s, or saw one of the limited Channing revivals, it's very possible you do not know the show at all except perhaps by name and therefor have no specific impetus to see it, especially if it's expensive), those people might not bother if it's not starring someone they know/like/care about/have heard of. A LOT of people do not know the work of Buckley or even know her by name to know she is an acclaimed broadway star. So while a lot of the potential audience comes from people just going because of the title, or those who would know Buckley, I think they are taking a risk with the casting. I appreciate the risk because I'm curious to see this take on the role. But it certainly doesn't fit the mold they've created from the casting in NYC. |
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| re: Eight is enough premiered 40 years ago in 1977 | |
| Posted by: CCentero 11:48 am EST 02/12/18 | |
| In reply to: Eight is enough premiered 40 years ago in 1977 - dramedy 11:34 am EST 02/12/18 | |
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| She wasn't the star or the breakout star of either Eight is Enough or Carrie by any stretch of the imagination. Eight is Enough is hardly an enduring hit of any stature. She has done a fair amount of regional theatre and concert work throughout the country. A fair amount of visitors to New York--the core road audience--have seen her in Cats, Sunset, Drood, etc. Along with her great voice on well-loved cast albums, there is some name recognition going for her. They're going with someone who can perform the part, who usually pulls very good reviews. |
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