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| Is there any precedent for this? | |
| Last Edit: mikem 09:00 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
| Posted by: mikem 08:49 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
| In reply to: AMY/ANDY AND THE ORPHANS - NewtonUK 08:30 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
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| I find it fascinating that the lead is played by both a man and a woman. What are other shows that have done this? Something similar was done with Forum when Whoopi took over, although she succeeded Nathan Lane rather than playing alternately. Was Whoopi's understudy male or female? One thing that would make it challenging for many scripts is that the lead often has a romantic subplot, which may not play out in the same way if the sex of the lead is different. I don't remember Forum that well -- is there a romantic subplot for Pseudolus? If so, were there any alterations when Whoopi joined the cast? |
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| re: Is there any precedent for this? | |
| Last Edit: JereNYC 01:36 pm EDT 03/29/18 | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 01:35 pm EDT 03/29/18 | |
| In reply to: Is there any precedent for this? - mikem 08:49 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
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| If I remember correctly, Bob Amaral stood by for the role of Pseudolus throughout the run for Nathan Lane, Whoopi Goldberg, and David Alan Grier and actually played the last week or two of the run with billing. | |
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| re: Is there any precedent for this? | |
| Posted by: AC126748 09:15 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
| In reply to: Is there any precedent for this? - mikem 08:49 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
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| WHOSE LIFE IS IT ANYWAY? opened with Tom Conti on Broadway. A year later, it reopened with Mary Tyler Moore in the leading role. The gender and name of the lead character was changed from Ken to Claire. And currently on Broadway, Alex Newell and Tamyra Gray are playing roles in ONCE ON THIS ISLAND that were originally written for people of the opposite sex (Newell's understudy is a woman and Gray's is a man). Of course, AMY/ANDY is uncharted territory because it is -- correct me if I'm wrong -- the first show written for and starring people with Down syndrome. |
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| re: Is there any precedent for this? | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 09:36 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Is there any precedent for this? - AC126748 09:15 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
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| This is uncharted territory - and rather than an opposite gender actor taking over the role full time, this role was shared from day one. I cannot imagine a play making its point this strongly other than with a Down syndrome actor in the leading role. Extraordinary in so many ways. | |
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| re: Is there any precedent for this? | |
| Posted by: Ann 09:44 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Is there any precedent for this? - NewtonUK 09:36 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
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| I thought the Andy thing was just announced last week. Have they been alternating all along? | |
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| It was announced ages ago. I saw the show on 2/11 & it was already public at that point. | |
| Posted by: Esther 01:44 pm EDT 03/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Is there any precedent for this? - Ann 09:44 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
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| I almost think there may have been something in the Playbill (like a note from the playwright section) that mentioned it would be Andy & The Orphans if/when he got to go on. I'll see if I can find my playbill when I get home later | |
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| The alternating is new, but he was always the understudy. (NM) | |
| Posted by: Seth Christenfeld (tabula-rasa@verizon.net) 09:58 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Is there any precedent for this? - Ann 09:44 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
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| Seth, who hasn't gotten to it | |
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| Pseudolus in Forum | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 09:14 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
| In reply to: Is there any precedent for this? - mikem 08:49 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
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| No romantic subplot as such, but there is a scene where Pseudolus visits the House of Marcus Lycus and gets enticed by some scantily clad courtesans. | |
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| re: Pseudolus in Forum | |
| Posted by: JereNYC 12:50 pm EDT 03/29/18 | |
| In reply to: Pseudolus in Forum - BroadwayTonyJ 09:14 am EDT 03/29/18 | |
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| Goldberg played this scene as a woman fascinated by and admiring the talents of these other women. She also used the scene to express a lot of comic frustration that Hero isn’t seeing what he wants amongst this extraordinary group of women. One of the courtesans was also African-American and Goldberg got quite a laugh when, after the lady did her thing and got rejected by Hero, exclaiming “But that’s my cousin!” And, of course, Goldberg’s Pseudolus ends up with Miles Gloriosus at the end. |
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| how did they handle "Free" with Whoopi? | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 06:51 am EDT 03/31/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Pseudolus in Forum - JereNYC 12:50 pm EDT 03/29/18 | |
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| PSEUDOLUS: Can you see me as a lover? One of great renown, women falling down— HERO: Free? PSEUDOLUS: No! But I'll buy the House of Lycus for my house in town! Can you see me? Can you see me? And of course the House of Lycus is established early in the show as a whore house selling women to men for sexual pleasure... So were these lyrics changed? |
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| re: Pseudolus in Forum | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 03:17 pm EDT 03/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Pseudolus in Forum - JereNYC 12:50 pm EDT 03/29/18 | |
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| Interesting. I've seen a couple of productions in the Chicago area -- surprisingly it hasn't been done a lot in my area over the last 25 years. I didn't see the '96 Broadway revival. | |
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