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| re: 1985: The year they didn't give Tonys for Best Actor and Actress in a Musical | |
| Last Edit: WaymanWong 01:56 am EDT 04/06/18 | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 01:52 am EDT 04/06/18 | |
| In reply to: re: 1985: The year they didn't give Tonys for Best Actor and Actress in a Musical - Michael_212 10:55 pm EDT 04/05/18 | |
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| I'm with Michael 212. The Best Actor in a Musical nominees could've easily have been Jenkins, Knudsen, Richardson and Vereen. Featured Actor in a Musical could've been Faye, Goodman and Short, and I would've added Timothy Nolen from ''Grind.'' Best Actress in a Musical? Christine Ebersole (''Harrigan''), Leilani Jones (''Grind''), Dinah Manoff and Mary Beth Peil (''King and I''). Featured Actress? Evalyn Baron and Lenka Peterson (''Quilters''), Beth Fowler (''Take Me Along'') and Carol Woods (''Grind''). There were enough fine performers to field 4 categories. And if they were only gonna field two categories, why not just call it Best Actor and Actress in a Musical (since most of them were leads)? The roles of Huck, Jim & Anna aren't Featured. (The SAG Awards don't have Featured or Supporting.) (P.S. ''Grind'' wasn't a perfect show, but I enjoyed much of Grossman & Fitzhugh's score, especially the lovely & lilting ''Katie My Love.'') |
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| re: 1985: The year they didn't give Tonys for Best Actor and Actress in a Musical | |
| Posted by: bobby2 02:12 am EDT 04/06/18 | |
| In reply to: re: 1985: The year they didn't give Tonys for Best Actor and Actress in a Musical - WaymanWong 01:52 am EDT 04/06/18 | |
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| Weren't Nolen and Stubby Kaye above the title too? They could have been nominated as lead also, no? (didn't see it so don't know the size of the roles but billing was lead.) I didn't realize Harrigan and Hart was that year. So Groener and Hammil were that bad they didn't merit a nomination? They must have been making some political point. I doubt this would happen nowadays. |
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| re: 1985: The year they didn't give Tonys for Best Actor and Actress in a Musical | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 02:33 am EDT 04/06/18 | |
| In reply to: re: 1985: The year they didn't give Tonys for Best Actor and Actress in a Musical - bobby2 02:12 am EDT 04/06/18 | |
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| You are correct. Ben Vereen, Timothy Nolen and Stubby Kaye were all billed above the title, along with Leilani Jones, in ''Grind.'' But I've always understood that the Tony committee has the discretion to place performers where they see fit, petition or not. Groener and Hamill were below the title of ''Harrigan N' Hart,'' but since they're the title characters, they should've been leads. For the record, the Drama Desk Awards nominated both Groener and Hamill for Best Actor, alongside Jenkins & Richardson. And it nominated 4 actors from ''Big River'' for Featured: Auberjonois, Goodman, Gunton and Short. Plus, Nolen from ''Grind.'' |
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| Hamill and Groener .... | |
| Posted by: jdm 05:21 am EDT 04/06/18 | |
| In reply to: re: 1985: The year they didn't give Tonys for Best Actor and Actress in a Musical - WaymanWong 02:33 am EDT 04/06/18 | |
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| were both wonderful in the show and should have been eligible - and perhaps nominated - for leading actor. Never understood that year and its lack of Best Actress and Actor fiasco. Jim |
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| Throwing the book ... to Michael Stewart in 'Harrigan N' Hart' | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 09:52 am EDT 04/06/18 | |
| In reply to: Hamill and Groener .... - jdm 05:21 am EDT 04/06/18 | |
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| Baffling. The performers got better notices than the show, but the only aspect that got a Tony nomination was the Book, which was panned. And since the Tonys chose to nominate only 3 shows for Score, they could've nominated only 3 for Book ... but didn't. Go figure. |
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