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Novellas are not a subset of novels
Posted by: BigM 04:28 pm EDT 04/07/18
In reply to: re: Some sources call "Runaways" a revue - AlanScott 01:02 am EDT 04/07/18

They're shorter, a different thing. Just like one-acts are not a subset of full-length plays.
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re: Novellas are not a subset of novels
Posted by: AlanScott 05:50 pm EDT 04/07/18
In reply to: Novellas are not a subset of novels - BigM 04:28 pm EDT 04/07/18

That's why I wrote "If we consider . . . ." I didn't write that I considered them to be a subset of novels. :)

Actually, I think the analogy is an altogether bad one. Even last night, I thought it was a bad one. It was late, and I was just trying to come up with something that would sound good, even if it didn't stand up to inspection. I just don't think Runaways is a revue.

And in general I don't think that shows like Ain't Misbehavin', Side by Side by Sondheim, A Grand Night for Singing and Smokey Joe's Cafe should be considered musicals for award purposes. If we more often saw the old-fashioned type of revue exemplified by shows like The Band Wagon, As Thousands Cheer, Lend an Ear and the New Faces shows, I might think that those should be considered musicals for awards purposes.

When it comes to Runaways, though I didn't like it much way back when at the Public, I think there would be absolutely no reason not to think it a musical for awards purposes (or even a musical not for awards purposes). In my mind (or at least in my surely imperfect memory of what it was like), it's a musical. Obviously, it doesn't tell a straightforward or fairly straightforward story in a straightforward or fairly straightforward way as Wonderful Town, West Side Story, Wicked and Adding Machine do, but it's a musical. That's really all I wanted to say. As usual, I've used a lot of words to say something simple (or at least that could be said with fewer words).
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re: Novellas are not a subset of novels
Posted by: ryhog 04:49 pm EDT 04/07/18
In reply to: Novellas are not a subset of novels - BigM 04:28 pm EDT 04/07/18

I don't have an opinion on novellas, but one acts are most certainly a subset of plays. A fair proportion of Tony (and other) award winning plays fall in that subset.
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re: Novellas are not a subset of novels
Posted by: BigM 05:54 pm EDT 04/07/18
In reply to: re: Novellas are not a subset of novels - ryhog 04:49 pm EDT 04/07/18

Yes, of course they are. They're just not a subset of FULL-LENGTH plays, but something separate.
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re: Novellas are not a subset of novels
Posted by: ryhog 06:22 pm EDT 04/07/18
In reply to: re: Novellas are not a subset of novels - BigM 05:54 pm EDT 04/07/18

So, as an example, Indecent is not a full length play and also a one act play?

If you were referring to short plays, then yes of course I'd agree. I just think these analogies are faltering.
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