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| re: "SOME LIKE IT HOT" MUSICAL IN DEVELOPMENT: SUGAR? | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 12:37 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
| In reply to: "SOME LIKE IT HOT" MUSICAL IN DEVELOPMENT - Official_Press_Release 12:15 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
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| I wonder if the exclusivity of rights from the 1972 Jule Styne/Bob Merrill/ Peter Stone musical lapsed, or whether they negotiated a deal, In any event - there will be two musical versions of 'Some Like It Hot' floating around - unless they have negotiated to remove SUGAR from performances. | |
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| There are two phantoms and two wild party | |
| Posted by: dramedy 12:55 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "SOME LIKE IT HOT" MUSICAL IN DEVELOPMENT: SUGAR? - NewtonUK 12:37 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
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| And those came out the same yesr or so. If its based on source material, there is no reason to pull the rights for sugar. | |
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| re: There are two phantoms and two wild party | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 01:07 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
| In reply to: There are two phantoms and two wild party - dramedy 12:55 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
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| Although PHANTOM was public domain as well. I believe that the owner of the underlying property has rights to further sell on his interests for an adaptation. GONE WITH THE WIND has been made into 3 musicals. | |
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| re: There are two phantoms and two wild party | |
| Posted by: showtunetrivia 03:31 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
| In reply to: re: There are two phantoms and two wild party - NewtonUK 01:07 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
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| Actually, when Kopit and Yeston began work on their PHANTOM in late 1983, it wasn't in the public domain...in the US. Geoffrey Holder got the rights from the Leroux estate and they started. While they struggled, they then learned of ALW...and that the work was in the public domain in the UK. They had the rights for two more years, then it would be in the public domain globally. And Sir Andrew got to the finish line first with a mega-hit, crushing Yeston and Kopit's dreams. I think CYRANO wins for most versions. Laura |
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| re: There are two phantoms and two wild party | |
| Posted by: JohnPopa 11:56 am EDT 05/16/18 | |
| In reply to: re: There are two phantoms and two wild party - showtunetrivia 03:31 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
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| I'd guess A CHRISTMAS CAROL tops CYRANO! | |
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| re: There are two phantoms and two wild party | |
| Posted by: scoot1er 01:06 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
| In reply to: There are two phantoms and two wild party - dramedy 12:55 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
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| Except, both The Phantom of the Opera (the novel) and The Wild Party (the poem) are both in the public domain, so there could be several versions of each. Of course, I could be wrong. But as for Sugar, both the source material land the musical are still inn copyright, so some agreement would have to have been made. I could be wrong about this, too. | |
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| re: There are two phantoms and two wild party | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 02:06 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
| In reply to: re: There are two phantoms and two wild party - scoot1er 01:06 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
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| My guess is that MGM and/or the licensing house that controls SUGAR will clamp down on productions of SUGAR being "re-christened" SOME LIKE IT HOT: THE MUSICAL or some variation on that, as the national tour with Tony Curtis, et al was and the UK production with Tommy Steele. There will be ONE musical called SOME LIKE IT HOT and it will be this new one. As others have said, SUGAR had a top drawer creative team, but was no one's best work, despite having some terrific songs. I always wished that Kander and Ebb would have taken a crack at it, as the character of Sugar Kane is a photo negative of Sally Bowles and Roxie Hart...a character relatively successful in show business who will do almost ANYTHING to get out of it. Roxie and Sugar are actually contemporaries in Chicago before Sugar goes on the road to Miami with the band. |
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| re: There are two phantoms and two wild party | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 01:08 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
| In reply to: re: There are two phantoms and two wild party - scoot1er 01:06 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
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| As I posted below - GONE WITH THE WIND is still under copyright - but there have been 3 musical versions - the original Harold Rome one, a French musical version, and the more recent West End musical version ... | |
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| But those are both based on works in the public domain. | |
| Posted by: TimDunleavy 01:02 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
| In reply to: There are two phantoms and two wild party - dramedy 12:55 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
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| Gaston Leroux's 1910 novel THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA and Joseph Moncure March's 1928 poem THE WILD PARTY are both in the public domain. United Artists' 1959 film SOME LIKE IT HOT is not. |
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| But shuberts got rights from mgm for this version | |
| Posted by: dramedy 01:11 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
| In reply to: But those are both based on works in the public domain. - TimDunleavy 01:02 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
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| I assume that when someone creates a new work, the rights to source material is for as long as copyright exists. And mgm would still get royalties for sugar productiions. | |
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| re: But those are both based on works in the public domain. | |
| Posted by: scoot1er 01:08 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
| In reply to: But those are both based on works in the public domain. - TimDunleavy 01:02 pm EDT 05/14/18 | |
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| Sorry about my post. I guess we were both writing at the same time. | |
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