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re: Etiquette at Joe Allens
Posted by: mattyp4 06:41 pm EDT 05/20/18
In reply to: Etiquette at Joe Allens - Naughty_Rob 11:38 am EDT 05/20/18

Here are my thoughts:

I personally never approach a celebrity if I see them in public. Particularly if they're dining or doing something with friends or family. Just because they're dining in a public place that's popular in the industry does not mean that they want to be "on display." If they did they would give a talk or do a book signing or something. I work in the industry & I've been out with famous people. I can assure you that they want to be left alone.

Of course there are exceptions. I've been living in NYC for 16 years. I have seen lots of celebrities out & about but I only approached people two or three times. Twice was on the subway. Once when I was in line to get into a show & this person was stuck in a huge line right next to me. Each time I just said hello & mentioned that I was a fan. Two of the times they chose to engage in a brief conversation (which was nice but I would never expect or anticipate that). I've never asked for autographs nor have I asked for selfies. And I would never ever approach someone while they were dining. Like, never ever ever. Leave them be.

I once sat next to a Tony-winning theater/TV/film star at an Off-Broadway show & I didn't even say anything then! It took a bit of restraint but he was with a friend & probably appreciated the privacy. Or at least I'd like to think so. I'm sure he gets interrupted plenty of other times.
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re: Etiquette at Joe Allens
Posted by: KingSpeed 06:52 pm EDT 05/20/18
In reply to: re: Etiquette at Joe Allens - mattyp4 06:41 pm EDT 05/20/18

I'm a celebrity (C-list, you could say) and I love it when people come up to me. If I'm talking to someone or am on the phone, I need them to wait a second and I could be flustered, but otherwise, it's great. Love it. Not sure why it bothers other celebrities. Especially, celebrities less famous than me. Granted, bigger celebrities get approached more than I do, but hey, it's the life we chose!
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Just a couple of points
Posted by: SamIAm 09:11 am EDT 05/21/18
In reply to: re: Etiquette at Joe Allens - KingSpeed 06:52 pm EDT 05/20/18

First, I understand your remark about choosing this life but being a celebrity or someone in the public eye (sports figure, politician etc) does not and should not mean you have to give up all your privacy.
Secondly, there are instances where saying hello is OK (if you are standing in line next to someone) but interrupting someone's dinner or night out with friends is NOT OK as far as I am concerned.
Third and final point: You are an individual and you are OK with people approaching you. Not everyone is and each person should be able to set their own boundaries. To have attention forced on you is not a fun situation, especially if you are shy (which many performers are). I have had friends tell me that they were approached in bathrooms, at funerals, etc.

It is worth noting that, in the old days, theater actors were considered neighbors and people did not accost them when they walked the streets or went to restaurants. Since the revival of Broadway and the advent of more tourist-driven marketing etc it has become a free for all. People are pushy at stage doors, people who don't even SEE a show will grab a playbill and push for an autograph and sell it or insist on an actor signing playbills from other shows. As always, if you are unsure, or if you have to stop and ask yourself...just DON'T do it. Everyone deserves respect and privacy. Actors, musicians, and others are paid to do a job...not to be best friend to every person on the street and we tend to forget that we are not the only ones who do it. Add up all those people and it becomes a nightmare to go out.
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re: Etiquette at Joe Allens
Posted by: mattyp4 12:29 am EDT 05/21/18
In reply to: re: Etiquette at Joe Allens - KingSpeed 06:52 pm EDT 05/20/18

Well, with all due respect, I used to work with more of an A-list celebrity. He didn't usually hang out with the staff but one night, while we were on the road together, he felt like coming out with us. We were in Ohio and we all decided to go to a bar together. He was just trying to unwind and have a good time but there was a line of people trying to get a photo of him. Every now and then someone would interrupt the conversation he was having and stick a camera in his face. I watched as people lunged to photograph him. Besides being rude it was kind of frightening as well. He eventually went back to his hotel early. He only lasted about 15 minutes at the bar. After that he only really hung out with us at private parties.

I don't doubt that some celebrities enjoy the recognition, but if you're an A-lister I can see it being a nuisance. Actually, I literally saw it being a nuisance.

Anyway, bottom line is, if you see a celebrity in public and feel the need to say hi, proceed with caution. If there's a slight chance you think you might be bothering them, you probably are. (And most people don't want to be bothered while they're eating or going to the bathroom!)

Lastly, if you get rebuffed, don't come on to a message board huffing and puffing about a rude encounter with that celebrity. (Not saying you are, Naughty_Rob, but other people have.) They don't owe you a private meet & greet.
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re: Etiquette at Joe Allens
Posted by: KingSpeed 12:44 am EDT 05/21/18
In reply to: re: Etiquette at Joe Allens - mattyp4 12:29 am EDT 05/21/18

Good story. It's prob harder for true A-listers but there are people on my level that bitch about it. I agree that people should never feel they are OWED a meet & greet.
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