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| Posted by: ryhog 07:42 am EDT 05/27/18 | |
| In reply to: Kristin Chenoweth - KingSpeed 02:40 am EDT 05/27/18 | |
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| I don't want to get in a pissing contest about it but I don't think Rudin would cast Cheno in this in a million years. And the other names would not sell enough tickets. These are ATC names, not commercial Broadway names. I also agree with the point about the "event." Rudin is not going to channel the Weisslers. | |
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| Is Betty Buckley a commercial Broadway name rather than an ATC name? | |
| Posted by: BrianJ 02:38 am EDT 05/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Kristin Chenoweth - ryhog 07:42 am EDT 05/27/18 | |
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| I'm not even advocating either Buckley or Chenoweth as great for the role or likely to give great performances, but I'm confused about why Rudin wouldn't cast Chenoweth in this in a million years and yet did cast Buckley - because Betty Buckley is so much more commercial and so much more of a magnet for ticket buyers than Chenoweth? And yes, I'm aware that Rudin cast Buckley for the tour rather than Broadway, but my impression is that (contrary to the situation in David Merrick's day) the road is now dicier than, and harder to make profits on than, Broadway - is that true or not true? Would Rudin cast Cheno on the road but not on Broadway? Does Betty Buckley in 2018 have a major following in mid-sized American cities where the citizenry loves her but won't turn out for Kristin Chenoweth? |
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| re: Is Betty Buckley a commercial Broadway name rather than an ATC name? | |
| Posted by: ryhog 06:23 am EDT 05/29/18 | |
| In reply to: Is Betty Buckley a commercial Broadway name rather than an ATC name? - BrianJ 02:38 am EDT 05/29/18 | |
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| good questions, some without answers other than let's wait and see. I think BB is a strong road name (as would KC be, though I don't see her going on the road at this point) but Buckley would not have been able to sustain the show as Peters has on Broadway. The dynamic (open run vs. tailored limited stops) is different and the demographics of road audiences is markedly different than what it takes on Broadway nowadays. The BB vs KC question is, to me, not one of raw commercial viability (KC wins that) but of the package Rudin has created which involves an event (a legend in a legendary play) rather than simply a question of selling tickets in the Weissler style. On this question, Buckley qualifies (at the second tier) whereas I don't think (and don't think Rudin would think) Chenoweth would. All in my opinion, of course, and reality tbd. | |
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| re: Is Betty Buckley a commercial Broadway name rather than an ATC name? | |
| Posted by: Delvino 12:12 pm EDT 05/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Is Betty Buckley a commercial Broadway name rather than an ATC name? - ryhog 06:23 am EDT 05/29/18 | |
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| Excellent explication of the difference between a Rudin producing philosophy (with this Dolly iteration anyway) vs. an open-run Weissler style. Very important point that's often lost. The event thing is just a marker here. | |
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| re: Kristin Chenoweth | |
| Last Edit: KingSpeed 08:28 pm EDT 05/27/18 | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 08:28 pm EDT 05/27/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Kristin Chenoweth - ryhog 07:42 am EDT 05/27/18 | |
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| Kristin is not an ATC name. She's a national TV, film, and stage star and her shows sell very well. Look at how well Promises sold. Tonya and Lucci are soap stars with a following. | |
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| re: Kristin Chenoweth | |
| Posted by: ryhog 09:44 pm EDT 05/27/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Kristin Chenoweth - KingSpeed 08:28 pm EDT 05/27/18 | |
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| The "these" I was referring to did not include her. And "soap stars with a following" is not gonna cut it with Rudin. But as I say I don't want to get into a pissing contest. | |
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