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| Posted by: allineedisthegirl 02:33 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
| In reply to: Slender, Medium and Stout Seating Options: Bring It Back!!! - portenopete 01:18 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
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| We don't all know that theatres have wildly different seats scattered throughout the auditorium. Well I guess I do now. I've been every broadway theatre and most off-Broadway ones, and the seats, at least per section, always appeared uniform to me. The only notable variances I've notices have been in leg room, which can be insufficient, even for us little people. If there are, indeed, super-sized seats "scattered" throughout the theatres (really?!?!?) I doubt that there are enough to accommodate a meaningful percentage of the large people in the audience. I totally agree about the willingness of house staff to be helpful. db |
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| re: Slender, Medium and Stout Seating Options: Bring It Back!!! | |
| Posted by: MistressAndy 03:29 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Slender, Medium and Stout Seating Options: Bring It Back!!! - allineedisthegirl 02:33 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
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| I've done some work in regional theatres and sometimes the difference is really noticeable. There are certain rows where the arm rests fit quite tightly against my sides and others where I have PLENTY of room. I always note which rows have roomier seats and try to purchase accordingly when I attend. | |
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| re: Slender, Medium and Stout Seating Options: Bring It Back!!! | |
| Posted by: gothamplaygoer 03:23 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Slender, Medium and Stout Seating Options: Bring It Back!!! - allineedisthegirl 02:33 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
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| I had an awkward experience at New World Stages last week. As I approached my seat, I saw a grossly obese man standing in front of the adjacent seat. I reluctantly took my seat, but when he sat down, so much of him bulged into my space that I could not sit straight. After realizing that two hours of this would be torture, I got up and found the house manager who was very accommodating about finding me another seat. While I certainly would not want to prevent obese people from attending the theater, I wish there were a way to provide them an appropriate seat without embarrassing them and without being unfair to the person in the next seat. | |
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| "Grossly"? | |
| Posted by: portenopete 05:35 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Slender, Medium and Stout Seating Options: Bring It Back!!! - gothamplaygoer 03:23 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
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| Might I ask that you refrain from using the word "grossly" as a modifier for "obese"? Do you have any idea how hurtful that is? Can you imagine the reaction if someone was described as "frighteningly black" or "creepily Jewish"? Your use of "grossly" leads me to wonder whether there's more than just the pilfered space that's problematic: sometimes I think people just don't want to be near fat people as a matter of aesthetic principle. |
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| There are accepted degrees of obesity | |
| Posted by: broadwaybacker 11:38 am EDT 06/19/18 | |
| In reply to: "Grossly"? - portenopete 05:35 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
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| I can’t believe I’m posting this on this board, but the World Health Organization does have subgroups of obesity, based on body mass index. They are: severe, morbid and super, which correspond to Class I, Class II and Class III obesity. I wonder what the reaction would have been if the OP had used the term “super obese”. By the way, the WHO characterizes super obesity, or Class III obesity as someone whose BMI is greater than 50. But of course, you can’t look at someone and know what their BMI is. So, I don’t have a strong objection to the adjective of “grossly” to modify obese, as it seems to be a reasonably perceived “unscientific” description. |
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| re: There are accepted degrees of obesity | |
| Posted by: broadwaybacker 11:53 am EDT 06/19/18 | |
| In reply to: There are accepted degrees of obesity - broadwaybacker 11:38 am EDT 06/19/18 | |
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| Too late to edit. I meant gothamplaygoer’s description, not the OP. It was the OP who objected to the word “grossly.” | |
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| re: "Grossly"? | |
| Posted by: gothamplaygoer 06:05 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
| In reply to: "Grossly"? - portenopete 05:35 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
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| Morbidly? | |
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| Better. | |
| Posted by: portenopete 10:26 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Grossly"? - gothamplaygoer 06:05 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
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| It's a medical term, but sure. It doesn't present a value judgement like "grossly". And I would suggest that rather than use the word "obese" at all, just stick to "fat". It's not a pejorative word on its own, unless you choose to make it so. I'm glad you say you want to avoid embarrassing the fat person in question, but you do get that calling something "gross" is pretty....gross, right? |
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| re: Better. | |
| Posted by: gothamplaygoer 09:33 am EDT 06/19/18 | |
| In reply to: Better. - portenopete 10:26 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
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| I apologize for inadvertently offending. | |
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| This should be under portenopete's post | |
| Last Edit: AlanScott 06:24 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 06:23 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Grossly"? - gothamplaygoer 06:05 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
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| I agree that grossly is a poor choice of modifier, but the problem can be a real one. I've experienced it a few times myself, one time on a trip to London. I had to ask for another seat, which I tried to do as quietly and unobtrusively as possible so as not to embarrass the person in the seat next to me. At first I was told that there were not empty seats, but then one was found for me. I don't know what I would have done if there had not been one. It really would not have been possible for me to sit there leaning over to one side and with my knees over to one side for all those hours. | |
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| re: This should be under portenopete's post | |
| Posted by: portenopete 10:31 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
| In reply to: This should be under portenopete's post - AlanScott 06:23 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
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| Believe me, when I request a different seat because of space, I am thinking of my neighbour at least as much as I of myself. I am often aching at the end of a show after contorting my frame to keep from impinging on the space of my neighbours. I am always glad when a show is poorly sold so I can move back and have a seat on either side of me. Boxes are a godsend, despite the sometimes less-than-perfect vantage point. And if I am in one and someone is sitting behind me, I always offer to change places since because of my largesse, I tend to sit higher than a thinner person of my height. |
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| re: This should be under portenopete's post | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 02:43 pm EDT 06/19/18 | |
| In reply to: re: This should be under portenopete's post - portenopete 10:31 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
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| As with people of all sizes, some are considerate neighbors at the theatre, and some are not. I'm sure you're among the considerate ones. | |
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| re: Slender, Medium and Stout Seating Options: Bring It Back!!! | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 03:31 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Slender, Medium and Stout Seating Options: Bring It Back!!! - gothamplaygoer 03:23 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
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| There IS a way and it's the way you chose. Now, if the show was a big, sold out hit, then that's going to be a problem, but you handled the situation beautifully. I'm sure that person probably figured out what happened when you didn't return to the seat and was so grateful to not have to suffer the embarrassment for two hours. That person knows, more than anyone else, that he/she is a big person and seats aren't built to accommodate, but, just as there were few options for YOU, there are few options for him/her, other than not attending at all. | |
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| re: Slender, Medium and Stout Seating Options: Bring It Back!!! | |
| Posted by: portenopete 10:34 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Slender, Medium and Stout Seating Options: Bring It Back!!! - JereNYC 03:31 pm EDT 06/18/18 | |
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| Or purchasing a second seat, which I have often considered. But at $150/ticket it's kind of beyond my budget. Ironically, it's the cheaper off-Broadway/West End houses that tend to have more comfortable and wider seats, where it isn't so much of an issue. | |
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