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Those herbal cigarettes; what's it like to spend an evening smoking them?
Posted by: Delvino 08:56 am EDT 06/21/18

The air at the Booth becomes thick with the herbal cigarette smoke, masquerading as the Marlboros several "Boys," Rannells and especially a chain-smoking (plus faux joints) Quinto must suck on for almost two hours. Watching Quinto, almost never without one, and toking deeply, must top even Midler's Mengers.

I was upstairs, but my throat noticed it. I've been around them on/off in other performances, since circa 2003/4, but they are not a pleasant element in a show with multiple characters.

What's it like to smoke them eight times a week? One actor friend told me they give you foul breath, on par with tobacco. As Midler said, "smoke is smoke," and "I'll Eat You Last" was hard on Bette for that element. I realize they are non-addictive and nicotine free; I just wonder what it does to the mouth, throat and lungs of actors. I've forgotten, must it be included in AEA contracts?
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Im surprised the theater doesnt have better ventilation
Posted by: dramedy 12:27 pm EDT 06/21/18
In reply to: Those herbal cigarettes; what's it like to spend an evening smoking them? - Delvino 08:56 am EDT 06/21/18

To draw the smoke out of the theater. It does just linger in the auditorium.
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Was "Talk Radio" with Liev Schreiber the last time tobacco was used?
Posted by: Delvino 12:49 pm EDT 06/21/18
In reply to: Im surprised the theater doesnt have better ventilation - dramedy 12:27 pm EDT 06/21/18

It's the last time I noticed it, and they had to post a sign by the box office. Interestingly enough, to your point, I don't recall the tobacco smoke filling the house as much as the herbals yesterday afternoon. Liev Schreiber apparently insisted on securing permission via AEA. But that's a decade ago. I don't think lit tobacco is allowed anywhere, and AEA took a stand about demanding actors smoke. I was surprised to see Rannells smoke as much as he did, since it didn't seem character-specific (though era-specific to be sure).
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re: Was "Talk Radio" with Liev Schreiber the last time tobacco was used?
Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 12:54 pm EDT 06/21/18
In reply to: Was "Talk Radio" with Liev Schreiber the last time tobacco was used? - Delvino 12:49 pm EDT 06/21/18

Does Rannells smoke in real life? If so, perhaps the character choice was based in nothing more than that.
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re: Those herbal cigarettes; what's it like to spend an evening smoking them?
Posted by: stgmgr 09:42 am EDT 06/21/18
In reply to: Those herbal cigarettes; what's it like to spend an evening smoking them? - Delvino 08:56 am EDT 06/21/18

They're pretty unpleasant--from either side of the cigarette. Equity has approved brands/versions of e-cigarettes (including non-nicotine options) to protect the actors, and they do check to confirm that the show is using an approved version. I'm not aware of any codified policy on herbal cigarettes, though. Most actors would rather use e-cigarettes when the staging permits it, but there is a certain lack of verisimilitude that may make them undesirable. (They don't burn down in the way that a real cigarette would if they are used over a period of minutes. And they clunk when they hit an ashtray.)
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re: Those herbal cigarettes; what's it like to spend an evening smoking them?
Posted by: barna99 01:12 pm EDT 06/21/18
In reply to: re: Those herbal cigarettes; what's it like to spend an evening smoking them? - stgmgr 09:42 am EDT 06/21/18

I hate e-cigarettes on stage. I saw an off-Broadway play and the female lead smoke one and it looked completely ridiculous. It had like a light at the end and she would pretend to inhale but nothing came out. Too distracting.
I also hate that herbal smell.
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re: Those herbal cigarettes; what's it like to spend an evening smoking them?
Posted by: Thom915 06:37 pm EDT 06/21/18
In reply to: re: Those herbal cigarettes; what's it like to spend an evening smoking them? - barna99 01:12 pm EDT 06/21/18

I prefer using fake cigarettes which when used correctly allow you to emit a sort of powdered smoke. They do have the same problem of not burning down but I find that a fair trade off for the health and safety of the actors and audiences.
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re: Those herbal cigarettes; what's it like to spend an evening smoking them?
Posted by: MikeR 07:31 pm EDT 06/21/18
In reply to: re: Those herbal cigarettes; what's it like to spend an evening smoking them? - Thom915 06:37 pm EDT 06/21/18

The problem with those is that you blow the puff of "smoke" when the cigarette is in your mouth, and then when you take the cigarette away, there's nothing. Which is not how cigarettes work.

They make very realistic e-cigarettes that only light up when you inhale, just like an actual cigarette. It does have the problem of not burning down and yes, they do make that unfortunate "clunk" in ashtrays if you don't set them down ever-so-gingerly. But I prefer that to puff cigarettes and especially to the noxious herbal ones.
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re: Those herbal cigarettes; what's it like to spend an evening smoking them?
Posted by: garyd 07:56 pm EDT 06/21/18
In reply to: re: Those herbal cigarettes; what's it like to spend an evening smoking them? - MikeR 07:31 pm EDT 06/21/18

I used e-cigs for a while. Someone makes one like you describe and it is also has a "soft" filter tip so that it does not make as pronounced a clunk sound as others. I forget, of course, the brand name. One of the, albeit minor, concerns I have with actors smoking is that most have never really smoked and do not know how to hold the cigarette realistically and also do not know how to fake inhalation. Consequently they simply draw the smoke into their mouths and then blow it out. (no Bette Davis nose exhalation...sigh) Well I said it was minor...maybe even silly but I do notice it for some reason.
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