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| re: "We Got Annie"... either version is better than none // need help identifying what it sounds like | |
| Last Edit: Chromolume 11:21 pm EDT 06/23/18 | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 11:12 pm EDT 06/23/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "We Got Annie"... either version is better than none // need help identifying what it sounds like - SRMHAYES 06:52 pm EDT 06/23/18 | |
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| Snippets of "We Got Annie" are sung in the stage show by Grace, Drake and Mrs. Pugh in the title song. This was a revision done only for the 2012 revival. I don't think it's in the licensed materials, so it's not probably going to be heard that way very often. Listening to it on the recording, it only muddies the already inferior title song. Not a revision that was necessary in any way, IMO. The actual title song, shoehorned into the middle of "I Don't Need Anything But You," always feels to me like someone decided they needed a title song, so they threw it in, much like Herman was talked into writing that ridiculous title song for Dear World. To me, one of the weakest moments in the score, save "You Won't Be An Orphan For Long" which also feels like an idea that was written only half-assed. Also interesting that neither song ends on its own - "Orphan" gives way to a curtain reprise of "Maybe," and "Annie" works its way back into a final refrain of "I Don't Need Anything." Neither "Annie" nor "Orphan" really get any chance to develop into anything on their own. Other than that, I've always really enjoyed the score. "Tomorrow", IMO, belongs in a different show stylistically (it's the only song that really has a 1970's pop flavor in a show that otherwise stays close to 20's/30's pastiche) but I do think it's a better score than a lot of people think it is. |
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| re: "We Got Annie"... either version is better than none // need help identifying what it sounds like | |
| Last Edit: Chazwaza 01:30 am EDT 06/24/18 | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 01:26 am EDT 06/24/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "We Got Annie"... either version is better than none // need help identifying what it sounds like - Chromolume 11:12 pm EDT 06/23/18 | |
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| I think "We Got Annie", the original version, is a far better song as a "title" song than the "Annie" song they have now, which is really disappointing. I think "We Got Annie" (original) is infectious and f**king delightful! I like the score as a whole but given the MASSIVE success of the show, I'm always surprised how many (what I'd call) weak songs it has, considering the score is the best part. But it also has a handful of wonderful songs. "Tomorrow" included. However the best case I've ever heard for it was the heartbreakingly sweet and simple version Charles Strouse sang at the piano on Theater Talk. I still watch it to make me smile, it's perfect. |
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| re: "We Got Annie"... either version is better than none // need help identifying what it sounds like | |
| Last Edit: SRMHAYES 11:35 pm EDT 06/23/18 | |
| Posted by: SRMHAYES 11:33 pm EDT 06/23/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "We Got Annie"... either version is better than none // need help identifying what it sounds like - Chromolume 11:12 pm EDT 06/23/18 | |
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| You are mistaken. I directed a production of the show in Spring, 1985 and the lyrics I quoted were in the score and assigned to Grace, Drake and Mrs. Pugh. They were also in the score when I directed it again in Fall, 1998. The interpolation of the title song ("Annie") serves a very important function in the show, creating the opportunity to introduce Annie's "New Look" in a fantastic "Hello, Dolly!" Grand Staircase entrance for Annie which is capped off with the "Big Finish" of "I Don't Need Anything But You". |
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| re: "We Got Annie"... either version is better than none // need help identifying what it sounds like | |
| Last Edit: Chromolume 12:23 am EDT 06/24/18 | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 12:18 am EDT 06/24/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "We Got Annie"... either version is better than none // need help identifying what it sounds like - SRMHAYES 11:33 pm EDT 06/23/18 | |
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| Interesting. I've done the show twice - after you did - and there were no such moments in the score. And both times I had what I'm pretty sure were the original rental materials - the sloppy manuscript score, etc. I don't remember those lyrics being in the script either. Maybe they've been playing around with that section under our noses, lol? I understand the USE of the title song - just that I don't think it's a particularly well-written song, especially in the context of its use in the middle of "I Don't Need Anything" which IMO is a much better song. And of course there's that awkward "cheese" joke sung by Grace, which ultimately refers back to another song that was cut. (And yes, there's a reference to cheese in the dialogue too.) I do find it funny, though, that the published score (which doesn't have the "We Got Annie" sections either, unless it's been more recently reprinted with them included) gets a number of lyrics wrong - like "fudge brandies" instead of "Judge Brandeis." I tend to think someone was trying to read the sloppy penmanship from the manuscript score and couldn't figure out what the words were really supposed to be. (There's also one in NYC, where the lyric "their yen for NYC" is printed as "thank you for NYC.") |
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| re: "We Got Annie"... either version is better than none // need help identifying what it sounds like | |
| Last Edit: Chromolume 11:36 am EDT 06/24/18 | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 11:36 am EDT 06/24/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "We Got Annie"... either version is better than none // need help identifying what it sounds like - Chromolume 12:18 am EDT 06/24/18 | |
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| Two updates: I have now found a printed (not published) version of the score that changes the entire sequence of "I Don't Need Anything"/"Annie" as I knew it to be when I did the show (putting "Annie" as its own song first, instead of in the middle of "I Don't Need Anything" as it was in the version I did) - which includes the "We Got Annie" lyrics and gets rid of the silly "cheese / Camemberts and bries" stuff in favor of the "Goodman's a king" bridge, just as hear on the 2012 recording. But I have no idea when that score came into being, and if that was available when SRMHAYES did the show, I wonder why we didn't get that version either time I did it. Going back to look at that manuscript score, the melody of "We Got Annie" is in the orchestration as a countermelody, but not sung. But the arrangement is the one that matches the original published score, not the one I just mentioned above, which I had figured was done for the 2012 revival, but maybe not? Seems that there are a number of versions of this sequence, in any case. Strange. |
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