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| re: What are the great stand-alone instrumental pieces in musicals? (not overtures) | |
| Posted by: EvFoDr 05:25 pm EDT 06/25/18 | |
| In reply to: re: What are the great stand-alone instrumental pieces in musicals? (not overtures) - monty4rudy 05:19 pm EDT 06/25/18 | |
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| OMG yes on the Bolero. I have sometimes listened to that on repeat too many times to admit and still sound sane :-). I've always wanted to ask someone (paging CHROMOLUME) how to count that. I know it's the melody from What You Need, but I cannot for the life of me figure out the time signature. Parts of it remind me of Liaisons--odd but go with me. So maybe it's 3/2 or something like that. Agreed on Steel Pier. And actually the part I mentioned at the end starts with the same plaintive piano solo you like from the beginning (you probably already know that) but it is developed more fully with the orchestra, ending on a few blasting chords that are to remind us of "Second Chance". I don't know the Redhead number. I 'll check it out. Thanks! |
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| re: Grand Hotel Bolero | |
| Posted by: selmerboy 01:17 am EDT 06/26/18 | |
| In reply to: re: What are the great stand-alone instrumental pieces in musicals? (not overtures) - EvFoDr 05:25 pm EDT 06/25/18 | |
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| It is in a slow 3/4. Like Ravel’s, the quarter note is so slow (about 64 bpm) that it almost feels like it could be in 6. The prominent triplets can also make it tricky to stay with in a few spots, but the underlying bolero rhythm never stops, even when the melody stretches a bit. Such a great moment! | |
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| re: Grand Hotel Bolero | |
| Last Edit: Chromolume 11:34 am EDT 06/26/18 | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 11:33 am EDT 06/26/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Grand Hotel Bolero - selmerboy 01:17 am EDT 06/26/18 | |
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| In the actual score, it is in 3/2, not 3/4. (So, EvFoDr, great guess!!) It's a minor difference in terms of overall feel - it's really just a notation issue (easier to notate without all the 16th note triplets you'd have to have in 3/4, and I suppose it "looks" more stately on the page) - but the effect is still that of a slow 3. ;-) | |
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| re: Grand Hotel Bolero | |
| Posted by: EvFoDr 12:22 pm EDT 06/26/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Grand Hotel Bolero - Chromolume 11:33 am EDT 06/26/18 | |
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| Ha! 10 points for me. Although to be fair it was only the similar feel to Liaisons (which I HAVE seen on the page and played on the piano in 3/2) that allowed me to make that guess. Even though it's just a notation, I have always had a terrible time feeling and counting 3/2. | |
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| re: Grand Hotel Bolero | |
| Posted by: EvFoDr 10:35 am EDT 06/26/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Grand Hotel Bolero - selmerboy 01:17 am EDT 06/26/18 | |
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| Thank you! YES, it is because the count is so slow that it feels like it has extra beats or an unusual meter. I shall listen again and TRY to count it all in a really slow 3/4. | |
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