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| Former 'Chicago' stage manager: This production has a history of 'destroying people's lives' | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 02:35 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
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| Link | Justice for Jeff: Former 'Chicago' PSM Glad to Escape Ambassador Theater 'Snake Pit' |
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| These long runs shows have such new dynamics | |
| Posted by: Naughty_Rob 07:15 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
| In reply to: Former 'Chicago' stage manager: This production has a history of 'destroying people's lives' - WaymanWong 02:35 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
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| I have seen casts be cruel to one another but the shows didn’t run very long. With shows that long as long as Chicago it must be a very different dynamic backstage. A routine sets in. Habits are formed and top dogs are established. When I first joined this list several members were not kind about having a new voice added to the mix. One long-time member seemed to have a sense of ownership over the list! Humans patterns of behavior are very complex. Let’s all try to be a little kinder and treat people the way we want to be treated. |
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| re: These long runs shows have such new dynamics | |
| Posted by: ryhog 09:59 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
| In reply to: These long runs shows have such new dynamics - Naughty_Rob 07:15 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
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| Have you? Where have you seen this? Don't mistake people bristling at naiveté or silliness or erroneousness for a chilliness to new voices. My impression over a fairly long period is that folks here respect intelligent contributions, without regard to whether the contributor is new or old. |
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| re: These long runs shows have such new dynamics | |
| Posted by: BruceinIthaca 07:28 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
| In reply to: These long runs shows have such new dynamics - Naughty_Rob 07:15 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
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| Not to disagree with your call for greater civility (which I also think includes learning the norms of any group you join, which is simply part of what is today called cultural competence), it IS worth pointing out that this site is indeed "owned" by its moderator(s) and we are here at their discretion. | |
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| re: These long runs shows have such new dynamics | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 09:48 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
| In reply to: re: These long runs shows have such new dynamics - BruceinIthaca 07:28 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
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| You're very generous to Rob's attempt to both rewrite history and make someone else's personal tragedy all about him. I think his post is helpful as a reminder that being in this business is all about navigating egos, whether your show runs for a week or a decade. I do wonder if any of the other long-running shows have amassed the body count of "Chicago" (said tongue firmly in cheek), but the toxicity on display with that show is only slightly more grotesque than the industry norm for bad behavior. I hope that this event does continue to expose how certain powerful people treat their employees, and that this does build into a proper movement. | |
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| Geez... Why in the world isn’t the New York Times writing about THIS? | |
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| Posted by: ShowGoer 03:25 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
| In reply to: Former 'Chicago' stage manager: This production has a history of 'destroying people's lives' - WaymanWong 02:35 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
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| Nothing against the valuable progress of the MeToo movement, and the potential uncovering of further sexual misbehavior... but why isn’t Michael Paulson or someone else at The NY Times on this beat and covering this story? These don’t seem like random accusations from faceless people, nor are they defamatory if they can be backed up factually as seems to be the case with nearly all I’ve been reading here. At bare minimum it’s a series of remarkable and unfortunate miscommunications and coincidences that have led to multiple tragedies... which seems like a news story that would be worth addressing by more prominent venues. This blog has been doing more valuable reporting on this story than any major media outlets. And regardless of the final outcome - whether the behavior of the Chicago production has been merely casually insensitive or criminally negligent - it’s shameful that this news isn’t being more widely reported and investigated. |
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| re: Geez... Why in the world isn’t the New York Times writing about THIS? | |
| Posted by: Snowgrace 07:09 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
| In reply to: Geez... Why in the world isn’t the New York Times writing about THIS? - ShowGoer 03:25 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
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| Have been writing this since 1st reading this story a week ago...please may this begin a movement to stop this kind of behavior as well. Here's hoping Ronan Farrow or a TIMES writer are carefully gathering information! | |
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| A 2012 article in McSweeney's from a CHICAGO cast member... | |
| Posted by: GrumpyMorningBoy 01:57 am EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Geez... Why in the world isn’t the New York Times writing about THIS? - Snowgrace 07:09 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
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| Brian Spitulnik is a Broadway guy who knows how to put sentences together, and he contributed a column to Dave Eggers' literary journal McSweeney's in 2012. One of his pieces was about the life, misery, and death of Mark Anthony Taylor, who's referenced in the latest entry of the current CHICAGO blog. link below. - GMB |
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| Link | DEATH OF A CHORUS BOY, FORETOLD, PART ONE by Brian Spitulnik |
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| Thank you for sharing that nm | |
| Posted by: wizrdofoz27 10:00 am EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: A 2012 article in McSweeney's from a CHICAGO cast member... - GrumpyMorningBoy 01:57 am EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| To borrow a phrase from Paul Harvey, 'here's the rest of the story' | |
| Last Edit: WaymanWong 03:16 am EDT 07/15/18 | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 03:08 am EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: A 2012 article in McSweeney's from a CHICAGO cast member... - GrumpyMorningBoy 01:57 am EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| Thanks, GrumpyMorningBoy. Brian Spitulnik's written a well-observed piece about the ups and downs of a dancer's life on Broadway. In painstaking and unsparing detail, Spitulnik captures the glamour and the grind, and the excitement and the exhaustion of it all. Spitulnik began as a swing in June 2007, and the ''Chicago'' website continues to list him as a swing in the current Broadway cast. |
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| Link | DEATH OF A CHORUS BOY, FORETOLD, PART TWO by Brian Spitulnik |
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| Chicago. the snakepit, has a history of 'destroying people's lives | |
| Posted by: FinalPerformance 03:24 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
| In reply to: Former 'Chicago' stage manager: This production has a history of 'destroying people's lives' - WaymanWong 02:35 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
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| Good to see people speaking up about the bullying at Chicago. I am not at all surprised about this. Those involved should be fired immediately. | |
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| re: Chicago. the snakepit, has a history of 'destroying people's lives | |
| Posted by: PurpleMoney 04:34 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
| In reply to: Chicago. the snakepit, has a history of 'destroying people's lives - FinalPerformance 03:24 pm EDT 07/14/18 | |
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| It's the Weissler's show and the way they do business. What's happening backstage at Waitress? | |
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