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| Posted by: jjhbb340 07:33 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: hyperbole? - KingSpeed 07:26 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| The WHOLE orchestra audience stood for her entrance,twice during Parade,all during the title number, So Long Dearie and of course the curtain call-this is no hype or fake news-ask anyone who was there today. | |
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| re: hyperbole? | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 11:04 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - jjhbb340 07:33 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| I count 5. You said at least 6. | |
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| Last Edit: Chromolume 07:47 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 07:44 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - jjhbb340 07:33 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| So - you were sitting somewhere where you could really see the WHOLE orchestra section in a quick glance? Each time? What's always fascinating to me about accounts of standing O's is that people tend to say idiotic things like "the whole audience leapt to their feet." But it's a very rare time indeed when such a thing is, or even can be, literally observed. Most people's eyes are focused on the stage, not in panning the "whole audience." (Who cares what the audience is doing - you want to see the star lol.) Plus, in order to see an entire audience "leap to their feet" (a fast, sudden gesture), you kinda have to know it's going to happen before it does in order to be able to watch for it. What you can and do notice is that the people around you and in front of you are standing. If you're not in the back row, even if you looked behind you, you would not be able to see if everyone was really standing ot not. And by the 6th time, you certainly wouldn't care. I won't go as far as to say it's fake news, but it is hyperbolic exaggeration to the nth degree. As Sondheim tries to show us in "Someone In A Tree," you may have been part of the event, but you couldn't possibly observe all of it. ;-) :-) |
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| Wow! TOUGH CROWD! | |
| Posted by: Genealley 08:32 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - Chromolume 07:44 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| Chromie don't go there! | |
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| Oh, Lord; audiences love this show and all the Dollys. In this rotten year, why cavil? | |
| Posted by: Delvino 08:10 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - Chromolume 07:44 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| I saw it again last week. No standing until the end, but yeah, the leaping to the feet thing was decidedly the house response. It wasn't gradual, it was quick, and the whole place. (I had TDF seats at the Tuesday matinee; last row center of the orchestra.) Both times I saw this show, August with Midler, July 3 with Peters, the audience enjoyed something akin to a collective experience. it generates joy inside the Shubert. I don't care where the standing begins, or if 57 people sit it out, or if half the mezz sits on their hands. This production is infectious, its stars inspire strong responses, and we're the better for it. |
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| re: Oh, Lord; audiences love this show and all the Dollys. In this rotten year, why cavil? | |
| Posted by: lowwriter 09:29 am EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: Oh, Lord; audiences love this show and all the Dollys. In this rotten year, why cavil? - Delvino 08:10 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| The second time I saw Midler in Dolly I was sitting in the first row front mezzanine. I know at one point when the audience stood for a number in the first act-the woman next to me got angry at me for not standing when the rest of the audience did. I personally didn't want to stand because I was sitting in a seat where no one was blocking my view. She was completely annoying next to me, jumping up and down every time she liked Midler's shtick. I was so thankful when the woman next to me sat somewhere else in the second act. I have had a great time at the several times I've attended Dolly, but it is more fun when the audience only stands at the end when the principal actors take their bows. |
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| Are you at all serious? | |
| Posted by: frankm 07:59 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - Chromolume 07:44 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| Have you never been in a situation where all those "people around you and in front of you" are up on their feet cheering (or booing, or doing anything as a group/mob) and you look around yourself to see and feel the wave of humanity being swept away...together? And seriously, if I saw everyone around me doing the same thing why would I not think that people I can't see are doing the same thing? Should I assume that something has happened that only the people in my eyesight have effected by? Come on, get over your self and stop being so obtuse. | |
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| re: Are you at all serious? | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 08:15 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: Are you at all serious? - frankm 07:59 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| Are questioning or dissenting opinions out here THAT toxic to you? I'm sorry for that. Please don't tell me to get over myself. I'm just expressing an opinion, just as the original poster did. We're just on extreme opposite sides - and I'm sorry for that. But I do think my opinion is as valid. Why can't it be? | |
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| No. Sorry. Not all opinions are valid. nm | |
| Posted by: frankm 07:50 am EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Are you at all serious? - Chromolume 08:15 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| nm | |
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| re: No. Sorry. Not all opinions are valid. nm | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 08:54 am EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: No. Sorry. Not all opinions are valid. nm - frankm 07:50 am EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| I guess, then, the president has done what he set out to do. :-( | |
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| You would be proof of that. nm | |
| Posted by: frankm 09:10 am EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: re: No. Sorry. Not all opinions are valid. nm - Chromolume 08:54 am EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| re: Are you at all serious? | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 11:25 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Are you at all serious? - Chromolume 08:15 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| Your opinion is very valid, C | |
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| re: hyperbole? | |
| Posted by: gcarl44 07:56 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - Chromolume 07:44 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| Why do you and KingSpeed care so much whether this was hyperbole or not. What does it really matter? Is it really necessary to stick a pin the bubble of joy that this theatergoer experienced in seeing the last Peters' Dolly just so you can feel superior? He or she was expressing a feeling, an emotional connection with the piece and the audience. If it felt like he was surrounded by a cheering, standing audience, does it really matter than maybe a few were not standing? I truly do not understand people like you, who find it necessary to criticize a post for no apparent reason, other than to put someone down. | |
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| re: hyperbole? | |
| Last Edit: Chromolume 08:13 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 08:06 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - gcarl44 07:56 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| He or she was expressing a feeling, an emotional connection with the piece and the audience. I got that. And believe it or not, I appreciate that. It's just that hyperbole is hyperbole. We currently live in a regime based entirely on hyperbole and deliberate misleading exaggeration. Do we need it here too? I'm sure today's Dolly was wonderful and memorable and special. It was also Bernadette's last day. We tend to get automatically hyped up and nostalgic about moments like these. Because it was the closing performance of her run. Not because the performance itself was millions of times better than usual. If anything, it has a lot to do with the audience congratulating themselves on being at a very special occasion. That's human nature, and I get it, and yes, it's very fun and exciting to be part of that kind of moment. But THAT'S why people stood 6 times - it was the occasion, not necessarily the performance. I'd much rather hear about how the actual performance went. That's all. |
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| All of that. | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 11:22 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - Chromolume 08:06 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| Thank you, Chromolume | |
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| Posted by: gcarl44 08:43 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - Chromolume 08:06 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| I appreciate and understand what you are saying, however, IMHO and my my eyes, your response to the original poster was a bit snarky. | |
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| re: hyperbole? | |
| Posted by: jjhbb340 08:51 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - gcarl44 08:43 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| Thanks again-someone just posted the final curtain call on you tube-everyone can see the fervor of the audience now. Wish I had gotten affidavits from David Hyde Pierce,Santo Loquasto,Carol Kane and Harvey Evans who were also in orchestra saying how many standing ovations were done all afternoon-REALLY hate being compared to our president and his fake news by some posters!! | |
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| re: hyperbole? | |
| Posted by: seenenuf 08:31 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - Chromolume 08:06 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| You come off very poorly with this post. | |
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| re: hyperbole? | |
| Posted by: jjhbb340 07:53 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - Chromolume 07:44 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| Row k-seat 21-each standing ovation was prolonged,so of course you could and would look around you-NOT a quick glance! Sorry you think we were all idiotic and sorry you never experienced such ecstasy in the theater! | |
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| re: hyperbole? | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 11:13 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - jjhbb340 07:53 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| You said at least 6. Then 5. Now you're sorry I've never seen people go mad over a star on her last performance. I saw Bernadette in the show. Thought she was great. And I've experienced "such ecstasy" in the theater more than a few times and it doesn't require standing six times to convince yourself that it is happening. | |
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| Posted by: Chromolume 08:02 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - jjhbb340 07:53 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| and sorry you never experienced such ecstasy in the theater! I'm a musical director and pit musician in regional theatre. I experience such ecstasy very often, as I'm always thrilled to have a place to share and create my art and to collaborate with other wonderful performers. Yes, I get tired as much as any performer does, but it is always a joy and a privilege to get to perform. That's my form of ecstacy, and it happens all the time. I didn't call anyone idiotic. (You did.) ;-) I'm glad you enjoyed the show. And your unobstructed view of row AA in the back of the orchestra. ;-) |
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| Posted by: seenenuf 08:33 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - Chromolume 08:02 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| Snark from a regional theatre musical director. Oh my. Little People. |
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| re: hyperbole? | |
| Posted by: Billhaven 08:15 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - Chromolume 08:02 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| It was an event. Since neither of us were there we can't have an accurate count of how many stood, how many sat, how many hovered. I was at Bette's (supposed to be) final performance and everyone within eyesight stood. One is obliged to stand even if one doesn't feel the urge because if you are seated you will be watching someone's backside while Hello Dolly is being sung. And I don't think it's hyperbole to say that was the grumpiest post of the day. Even with the ;-) | |
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| Posted by: Chromolume 08:18 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - Billhaven 08:15 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| and everyone within eyesight stood. If the OP had said that instead, there might not have been any questions. ;-) And I don't think it's hyperbole to say that was the grumpiest post of the day. Having not read every post today, I can't agree or disagree. But we live in a very grumpy time, I suppose. My apologies if I get caught in that. Anyone who knows me out here knows I can be sharp but I rarely try to be grumpy. Maybe tomorrow will be better. |
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| re: hyperbole? | |
| Posted by: Billhaven 08:26 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - Chromolume 08:18 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| I'm constantly trying not to be "Grumpy Old Man" (at least not Walter Matthau grumpy). Anyway, quite a few people stood today at Carmen Jones, even me. It was for a fine performance. But, Jeez, those clunky lyrics! |
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| Posted by: Chromolume 08:37 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - Billhaven 08:26 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| I agree. Not Hammerstein's best - but kind of "guilty pleasure" writing in a way. Thank you for changing the subject, sorta, |
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| Posted by: gcarl44 08:01 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - jjhbb340 07:53 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| I am so with you, and as I said in my last post to Chromolume, I don't understand why these people feel the need to put others down. While I did not see Peters' last performance, I too have experienced ecstacy at Dolly. | |
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| Posted by: jjhbb340 08:10 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - gcarl44 08:01 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| Thanks so much! So much negativity on this board this evening! I was surprised cause I had never seen a standing ovation DURING a show except for Lllias White's Oldest Profession in The Life years ago.Oddly enough this was led by the original Dolly Carol Channing who was sitting 2 rows ahead of me. Hope more of today's audience respond-there were 1460 people there and we were were all in heaven. Thanks again for your kind support! | |
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| re: hyperbole? | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 11:17 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - jjhbb340 08:10 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| The Life? Jesus Christ. Fun show. Fun song. But standing O? I guess people were overexcited because she had won the Tony. She's a good singer and all but people are working too hard to convince themselves that they are at a legendary performance if they are standing for that. How do you know all 1460 were in heaven? I'd bet thousands that there were people who were pissed that they had to stand because people in front of them did the same. | |
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| Posted by: Thom915 12:05 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - KingSpeed 11:17 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| This is beginning to get really mean to a poster who made an innocent comment to express his enjoyment of an incredible show and a wonderful performance by a talented actress finishing her run in that show. It also is now mocking other people who have seen shows at which standing ovations stand out in their mind. Since there is no way to know what is going on in people's minds one cannot possibly know what is going on in their minds. One makes assumptions. I don't know if it the current administration and the relentless news commentary on it or the long near heat wave of July but this seems like a particularly contentious thread over an innocent and expressive posting. I suggest we all move on. | |
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| re: hyperbole? | |
| Posted by: jjhbb340 12:22 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - Thom915 12:05 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| Thanks for being so considerate and understanding! Never knew there were so many cyber bullies on this site! Glad to know there are others like you who enjoy theater and could see what I meant from the original posting-it really means a lot. Thanks again! | |
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| Posted by: Chromolume 11:50 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
| In reply to: re: hyperbole? - KingSpeed 11:17 pm EDT 07/15/18 | |
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| How do you know all 1460 were in heaven? Weren't they at the Shubert? ;-) Billy Bigelow commits suicide, finds himself at the Shubert. Two usherly friends are there to help guide him back one block away to the Imperial, on the condition that he doesn't hit anyone on the way. Something like that. ;-) |
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