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| Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Posted by: LivingMyDream 05:24 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| When I look at signed CD's and playbills, I can't tell one chicken scratch from another. And many times neither can they. I have on occasion asked someone - did you sign this already? -- they look at it and say -- I can't tell. I have stopped buying signed (chicken scratched) CD's, playbills and posters. I have started asking for a chicken scratch on the cover and also on a picture inside. This way, I can tell who the chicken scratch belongs to. Another way is to ask them to print their name under their chicken scratch. These people show no respect for their fans. DON'T tell me that they are not obligated to sign. I KNOW THAT. But if they do, they should at least make an effort and show some respect for their fans |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Posted by: stgmgr 10:36 am EDT 07/18/18 | |
| In reply to: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - LivingMyDream 05:24 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| I don't think that actors who come to the stage door after giving a performance are showing anyone any "disrespect" if their signatures do not meet your standards. Not that you'd be asking the stage manager to sign for you--but I seriously doubt that my own signature would please you. After many years, it has become a bit abstract, and I suspect that that is true for many of us. (When we sign the deputy election form, which is a purely internal document, I always joke that there will be a prize for anyone who can figure which signature belongs to which person.) You should feel free to make your own notation on your Playbill after signing--in pencil, if you're worried about archival value. Or put a 3x5 card inside or stick a Post-It on the cover. And I would be wary about purchasing signed CDs, Playbills, or posters unless they come from an authorized source (which would include the production itself, the actor/signatory, or BC/EFA.) Anyone can take a Sharpie to show materials and sell them to you. |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Posted by: beyondhope 11:24 pm EDT 07/17/18 | |
| In reply to: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - LivingMyDream 05:24 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| Given the fact that so much signed merchandise ends up on eBay, the artists may also be justifiably skeptical that their legible signature has any emotional value to the person requesting it. | |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - THINK JOHN LENNON...he signed for his killer... | |
| Posted by: boyartist 12:54 pm EDT 07/17/18 | |
| In reply to: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - LivingMyDream 05:24 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| Truthfully, I am surprised that anyone with a "name" would want to risk mingling with the stage door crowds. There are a lot of crazed fans out there, including some pee stained loser who'd return the next night and shoot you because he, or she didn't like your penmanship. Over forty years ago, John Lennon stopped to give a fan an autograph, just as he was getting into a car in front of the Dakota. A few hours later, the same "fan", waiting in front of the Dakota, shot Lennon to death in front of his wife. It's a different World, which is a shame for all of the fans, as well as for the performers. Crazy, sick people, stalkers, and a few that think all kinds of unbalanced things. So, if anyone scribbles on your paper, realize that they are doing you a favor, and be grateful they even came out the stage door. TIME MACHINE...I once waited to see PEARL BAILEY come out the stage door after "Hello, Dolly!" ( this was circa 1968). Instead of signing, she had pre-signed glossy 8" x 10"s, and handed them out. I think some of today's performers should do that, and then run like hell ! |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Posted by: kdw111 12:39 pm EDT 07/17/18 | |
| In reply to: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - LivingMyDream 05:24 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| In all seriousness... Sign your own name on different pieces of paper 50 times, do that 8 times a week, for, let's say, 12 weeks. Then take a look at how your signature appears. |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 07:51 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - LivingMyDream 05:24 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| These people show no respect for their fans. DON'T tell me that they are not obligated to sign. I KNOW THAT. But if they do, they should at least make an effort and show some respect for their fans Just emphasizing something I also said below. Didn't they just work incredibly hard to do a whole show for you? Is that not showing respect? They could have phoned it in (and sure, that happens), but the performance is what they are giving to you. Why is that not enough? Why does it seem you're negating all the work that went into the main event just because they didn't give you your idea of a command performance afterwards? If the autograph means more than the performance, well...I just don't get it. They did the hard work all night, you sat on your butt in a (hopefully) decently comfortable seat. But, no respect for fans, you say, because their penmanship isn't up to your standards? Really? |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Posted by: LivingMyDream 08:53 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - Chromolume 07:51 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| All the people mentioned in the Autograph part of the post also worked incredibly hard to do a whole show for me. You are missing my point. Stop chicken scratching and write. | |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Last Edit: PlayWiz 12:05 am EDT 07/17/18 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 12:05 am EDT 07/17/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - LivingMyDream 08:53 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| Have you ever thought of taking a pen and printing, perhaps in parentheses under the signature, who that person who just signed is? Of course, that probably would make its resale value go down appreciably, even more than having some buyer taking your word on who that signature really belongs to. | |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Last Edit: LivingMyDream 12:49 am EDT 07/17/18 | |
| Posted by: LivingMyDream 12:41 am EDT 07/17/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - PlayWiz 12:05 am EDT 07/17/18 | |
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| I said that I was going to ask the person doing the chicken scratching to print their name under the chicken scratching. And I have no intention of selling my autographs or chicken scratches | |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Posted by: BruceinIthaca 10:15 am EDT 07/17/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - LivingMyDream 12:41 am EDT 07/17/18 | |
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| If I were an actor who had just finished doing a show and you asked me to print my name, I would have words for you--and they wouldn't be my name. You seem far less interested in the art and experience of theatre than in being a collector. And a shallow one at that. | |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Posted by: Huss417 06:56 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - LivingMyDream 05:24 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| Two threads about signatures. Do you think people signing at the stage door or wherever they are really have the time to make sure they cross all their T's and dot their I's? When you think you can't come across a more bizarre thread and then another shows up. This brings self entitlement to a whole other level. |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Posted by: LivingMyDream 07:40 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - Huss417 06:56 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| I did not say cross their t's and dot their i's. Just be able to tell who signed, especially on purchased CD's playbills and posters. Just stop chicken scratching. | |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Last Edit: Chromolume 07:39 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
| Posted by: Chromolume 07:38 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - Huss417 06:56 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| When you think you can't come across a more bizarre thread and then another shows up. This brings self entitlement to a whole other level. But - if you objected to my opinions on the other thread, this time I'm with you. Such entitlement. First, people are deeply offended if the stars don't show up to sign after every show. Now we want to require them to have wonderful penmanship. Frankly, if I'm able to meet actors after a show, getting to talk with them a bit is much more meaningful to me. Finding a fun question or two to ask them about the show. Just being able to say that I'm thrilled to get to meet them and to thank them for the performance. What's more memorable, ultimately - the chance to connect with someone you admire, or having them put their name on a piece of paper? I tend to think you'll remember and value the connection much more than them simply putting the name their parents gave them on a crumpled program that's just going to go into a box somewhere. I won't say I've never asked for autographs. But I haven't done that in a long while. The way I think of it now, it's more of a self-gratification thing. It's not really about the actor at all, it's about validating the audience experience. It's - "I paid all that money to see the star, and now I have the signature to prove it." Rather demeaning to the actor, I tend to think sometimes. Not intentionally so, but so. But even if not - if the actor is happy to sign your program, great. Believe me, the last thing on their mind is making sure every last signature is perfect. They just gave you a whole evening of hard work onstage. Isn't that enough??? I stand by this opinion and I am not apologizing for it. |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Posted by: caseyko 11:07 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - Chromolume 07:38 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| Chromolume, first let me say that I completely agree with you that a bit of conversation is much more meaningful (to me) than an autograph or even a photo - it's the human connection, as you said. However, I can't get into everyone else's mind, and if an autograph is what they're looking for, so be it. I think what the original poster is trying to say is the same thing my grandfather, who supported a family during the Great Depression, taught me - if you're going to do a job, do it well. For some people, that ends with the performance. But for others, that continues at stage door, and I tend to agree. I've seen performers such as James Earl Jones, Christopher Walken and Laura Benanti come out, smile, wave and get into their car, which is great - they just gave their all in a performance, which is all we should want. But at the same time, if a performer does go through the line - do it well. If not, then don't do it at all. And for the record, lots of people probably worked hard all day, week, even month with today's prices, to afford a ticket. Lastly, to combine threads, I really don't like standing ovations at all - not even at the end of a show - but if standing up an cheering makes someone else happy, why should I want to inhibit their joy? |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Posted by: JohnPopa 07:32 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - Huss417 06:56 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| My first thought was 'finally, after all this time, we've finally run out of shit to talk about.' | |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Posted by: schlepper 06:13 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - LivingMyDream 05:24 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| Perhaps you should always bring a notary public with you when you wait at the stage door? | |
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| re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? | |
| Last Edit: bmc 06:27 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
| Posted by: bmc 06:24 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Chicken Scratch - Hand writing that is very poor, messy and illegible. Who is it? - schlepper 06:13 pm EDT 07/16/18 | |
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| If the saw horses are in place, I will sometimes line up. If the signature is illegible,use a paperclip and a 3x5 card to attach a printed name at the top your playbill, that way if you forget, you will always know and be happy and grateful to the generous star/chorus member who signed the bill; And if your friends don't believe that that is Nathan Peters or Moesha Sondheim who signed, well too bad. YOU know who it is and that's what counts | |
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