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| Productions should be able to give a spoiler veto list to professional critics | |
| Last Edit: Leon_W 07:48 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
| Posted by: Leon_W 07:39 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
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| So there was a discussion below where critics spoiled ambiguity that should exist in a play thinking they were being helpfuf. I had the thought that after they see a show or play critics should get a veto listing the plot points which must not be revealed in any professional review with the threat of withholding future tickets if the rules are broken. This seems such a common sense idea to me. I once read a review on WhatsOnStage that ruined the main twists in Deathtrap with the terrible critic rubbishing the play as his justification for doing so, in that instance I complained and they edited the online review. I wish I could read reviews knowing that the critic wouldn’t be able to spoil plot points and even worse explain “and in the final moments as x happens we realize y” kind of reviews that spoil the end of a play. Surely they can write a review that doesn’t take away the surpises that they enjoyed when they saw the play??? | |
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| Um...no | |
| Posted by: AC126748 07:47 am EST 11/26/18 | |
| In reply to: Productions should be able to give a spoiler veto list to professional critics - Leon_W 07:39 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
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| Critics are not employees of a production. For a production to dictate what an independent writer can or cannot say in his review would set a terrible precedent. If you truly want to avoid spoilers and go into a show with a blank slate, don't read reviews or wait until after you've seen the show. | |
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| re: Um...no | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 07:52 am EST 11/26/18 | |
| In reply to: Um...no - AC126748 07:47 am EST 11/26/18 | |
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| In with you, AC126748. Don't read reviews if you don't want to be exposed to possible 'spoilers'. We have so many great resources now - Playbill and Did He Like It and other sites present Review Roundups. Several of these sites give several key sentences from each review - so you can get a sense of how well received the play had been overall. What else do you need to know before making a ticket buying decision? If you read the review first, it is my experience that 9 times out of 10 you will see everything the critic did, as he has now planted his opinion in your mind. Unless of course the show is Honeymoon in Vegas, or Thom Pain, or ... fill in the blanks of shows that crox loved and audiences hated (And vice versa e.g. WICKED and LES MIZ) | |
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| re: Productions should be able to give a spoiler veto list to professional critics | |
| Posted by: stgmgr 07:51 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
| In reply to: Productions should be able to give a spoiler veto list to professional critics - Leon_W 07:39 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
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| Hard to enforce. I did a show-with-a-twist some years ago, and critics were requested not to reveal the surprises. Some obliged, with some of those including the comment that they were being purposefully vague in order to avoid spoilers. Others seemed to take a "You can't tell me what to do!" position and proceeded to reveal every twist and turn in detail. All that you can do is ask. | |
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| re: Productions should be able to give a spoiler veto list to professional critics | |
| Posted by: SRMHAYES 11:09 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Productions should be able to give a spoiler veto list to professional critics - stgmgr 07:51 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
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| While it was not a Broadway hit, the 1975 (?) musical take-off of Christie's "Ten Little Indians"- "Something's Afoot" has become a staple of Regional, Dinner, Scholastic and Community Theatre. One of the cleverest things the authors did was list the musical number in the program but NOT list which characters were singing them, thereby masking which characters had been "eliminated" and which still survived. | |
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| Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work | |
| Posted by: Leon_W 08:03 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Productions should be able to give a spoiler veto list to professional critics - stgmgr 07:51 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
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| So very often for new tech gadgets and movies critics or tech sites get the product early and are given a date and time when they can write their thoughts in public. This absolutely holds because they don’t want to risk future access. And of course already theater reviews don’t post before opening night is happening or over. Productions already have some control that is respected and think a slight extension of this for certain listed spoilers would be better for the public. | |
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| re: Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work | |
| Posted by: Ann 08:09 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
| In reply to: Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work - Leon_W 08:03 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
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| I think that's a stretch - you're suggesting they tell critics what they can and cannot write. I think the companies would rather have the coverage and risk a spoiler or two, and readers can avoid reading writers who divulge spoilers, if that's important to them. | |
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| re: Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work | |
| Last Edit: Leon_W 08:19 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
| Posted by: Leon_W 08:15 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work - Ann 08:09 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
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| Maybe you are right Ann, But if an author says “I wrote this piece hoping these are three things the audience would discover over time” it would be remiss of the critic to spoil the authors vision of how things should play out for an audience. This isn’t telling them what to write exactly this is the author saying I spent years constructing this plot so don’t scream the twists ifrom the roof tops. Maybe even if it was just something the productions made the critics aware of they would be more careful? Also the author should have the chance to say directly to critics surely you can write a review of my play without giving away the final moments for example? | |
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| re: Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work | |
| Last Edit: Ann 08:20 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
| Posted by: Ann 08:19 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work - Leon_W 08:15 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
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| Ok, but that sounds different from what you said before. Some companies do make these requests. |
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| re: Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work | |
| Posted by: Leon_W 08:22 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work - Ann 08:19 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
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| It sounds different because I am unsure how far down the enforcement / request path they could get away with. I am brainstorming I guess. They get away with enforcement of date and time, maybe if they tried they could get away with enforcing a small list of spoilers, I don’t know. Maybe they should try! | |
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| re: Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work | |
| Posted by: Ann 07:59 am EST 11/26/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work - Leon_W 08:22 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
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| As I mentioned, I don't think either side would want this. I certainly wouldn't. | |
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| re: Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work | |
| Posted by: bmc 08:39 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work - Leon_W 08:22 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
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| My "favorite" was a review that said something like 'fans of Alec so-and so- will enjoy his surprise appearance halfway thru the film. | |
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| re: Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work | |
| Posted by: SRMHAYES 11:14 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Date and time theater / movie / product review embargo’s work - bmc 08:39 pm EST 11/25/18 | |
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| Rosebud was his sled. | |
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