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| "Coined" theatre words not found in Oxford Dictionary | |
| Posted by: showusyourtalent 04:49 am EST 12/02/18 | |
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| I recently heard Laura Benanti on a SiriusXM radio interview. She was speaking about taking-on the role of Eliza in "My Fair Lady." She used the word "ingenuey" in describing how she did not want to approach the role. What other made-up words have been spoken that would be theatre-related? |
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| re: "Coined" theatre words not found in Oxford Dictionary | |
| Posted by: ryhog 11:04 am EST 12/02/18 | |
| In reply to: "Coined" theatre words not found in Oxford Dictionary - showusyourtalent 04:49 am EST 12/02/18 | |
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| No word is made up here. The word is "ingenue," and the addition of "-y" (or "-ish") is an accepted form of making the word less precise. It shows up in dictionaries as a suffix entry, not with each word as that would include most words in the lexicon. | |
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| re: "Coined" theatre words not found in Oxford Dictionary | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 02:40 pm EST 12/03/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Coined" theatre words not found in Oxford Dictionary - ryhog 11:04 am EST 12/02/18 | |
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| What I find interesting, vis-à-vis the discussions about language that pop up here periodically, especially the cast album v. soundtrack discussion, is that when we argue about the use of the term "soundtrack" to mean anything in the realm of soundtracks, cast albums, studio recordings, etc., we argue that the word is incorrect and its blanket use causes confusion, especially when there are multiple recordings of a single score. Thus the "soundtrack" to INTO THE WOODS could refer to any number of albums, unless one is actually using the term correctly. But...the word that Laura Benanti made up to convey what she was feeling does exactly the opposite. It makes crystal clear where her thought process was and conveys exactly what she meant without confusion or misunderstanding. All that's required is a knowledge of the basic meaning of the root word "ingénue." Making up words and/or arbitrarily changing usage is a two way street, apparently. |
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| re: "Coined" theatre words not found in Oxford Dictionary | |
| Posted by: ryhog 03:09 pm EST 12/03/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Coined" theatre words not found in Oxford Dictionary - JereNYC 02:40 pm EST 12/03/18 | |
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| Your point about clarity/muddiness is a good and useful one. Although Laura did not make up anything or change usage (what she did is in the fucking dictionary already!), language does evolve in the direction of clarity. We express new nuances by using new terms that help the listener/reader "get" what's intended. | |
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| She just turned a noun into an adjective. (mmi) | |
| Posted by: BigM 03:15 pm EST 12/02/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Coined" theatre words not found in Oxford Dictionary - ryhog 11:04 am EST 12/02/18 | |
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| nmi | |
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| re: She just turned a noun into an adjective. (mmi) | |
| Posted by: ryhog 04:45 pm EST 12/02/18 | |
| In reply to: She just turned a noun into an adjective. (mmi) - BigM 03:15 pm EST 12/02/18 | |
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| Not to belabor the point (well, ...) but yes, precisely. There are two other related points. First, that unlike the "standard" adjectival forms (e.g., rainy, messy), these suffixes do not maintain the meaning but vary it some. And second, "-y" (and more commonly "-ie") can also be employed in the reverse: to make an adjective into a noun (e.g., lovey, meanie). Now back to the theatre and its ingénues. |
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| re: "Coined" theatre words not found in Oxford Dictionary | |
| Posted by: showusyourtalent 11:56 am EST 12/02/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Coined" theatre words not found in Oxford Dictionary - ryhog 11:04 am EST 12/02/18 | |
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| Your dictionary is obviously different than mine. | |
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| re: "Coined" theatre words not found in Oxford Dictionary | |
| Posted by: ryhog 02:36 pm EST 12/02/18 | |
| In reply to: re: "Coined" theatre words not found in Oxford Dictionary - showusyourtalent 11:56 am EST 12/02/18 | |
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| nope. it's the same. OED as well as the common American dictionaries. | |
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| Glad to hear Benanti has mastered ‘Buffy-speak’ (nm) | |
| Last Edit: MockingbirdGirl 07:47 am EST 12/02/18 | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 07:38 am EST 12/02/18 | |
| In reply to: "Coined" theatre words not found in Oxford Dictionary - showusyourtalent 04:49 am EST 12/02/18 | |
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| Shiny. | |
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