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| re: Can off-Broadway become viable again | |
| Posted by: ryhog 11:37 am EST 12/26/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Can off-Broadway become viable again - NewtonUK 07:42 am EST 12/26/18 | |
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| some of what you say is true, some false, a lot incomplete. And then there is the seemingly chronic need to express bias/hatred that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. When one chooses to write at length in a faux-exhaustive style, any merit in the underlying point is quickly dissipated. Your list of venues is nowhere near complete as to either non-profits or spaces available to commercial producers. But stripped of all that, it is still true that the off-B model is, except for a few exceptions, not promising at the moment. Could that change? Yes. This is New York and the one thing anyone paying attention knows is that everything, including especially everything involving real estate, evolves. | |
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| re: Can off-Broadway become viable again | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 01:27 pm EST 12/26/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Can off-Broadway become viable again - ryhog 11:37 am EST 12/26/18 | |
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| Well, I work in the business every day, have for some 50 years. I know the off Broadway commercial inventory pretty well (considering only theatres 199 and above - mostly -as nothing else works - and there are precious few 99s any more anyway). I actually re-read all of my posts carefully, and there are no lies in my post above, Mr/Ms Ryhog. If one wanted to a produce a show like the original Godspell at Cherry Lane - non union - and then move up - one can cut the risk drastically. But producing a show commercially off Broadway is VERy hard due to lack of venues and the costs associated. And the Broadway model was indeed broken in the 70's, never to be fixed as far as I can tell. Not bias, just true. The new model is very different, and for the few available theaters one can take a shot if one get an owner to accept your prohect - no easy task these days except for a very few of our most successful producers. ANd Disney. | |
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| re: Can off-Broadway become viable again | |
| Posted by: ryhog 01:58 pm EST 12/26/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Can off-Broadway become viable again - NewtonUK 01:27 pm EST 12/26/18 | |
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| No one mentioned lies but if you want to suggest you know what you are talking about, it behooves you to not be wrong or incomplete, which you were. That does not alter the current landscape materially, but wrong is wrong. And chips on shoulders do not persuade. P.S. Nothing is easy; some people just make things look easy, whilst others manage to make things harder than they are. That's not the theatre; it's everything. | |
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| "Everything, including especially everything involving real estate, evolves" is a rule | |
| Posted by: BrianJ 05:52 am EST 12/28/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Can off-Broadway become viable again - ryhog 01:58 pm EST 12/26/18 | |
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| Those of us paying attention enough to know that there are no rules are well aware that nothing, including especially nothing involving real estate, may ever evolve again. But to those misguided people under the delusion that there are rules - best of luck to you! |
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| re: "Everything, including especially everything involving real estate, evolves" is a rule | |
| Posted by: ryhog 09:44 am EST 12/28/18 | |
| In reply to: "Everything, including especially everything involving real estate, evolves" is a rule - BrianJ 05:52 am EST 12/28/18 | |
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| I think you misapprehend "rules" as I use the term. Rules refer to things that can affect our actions, not discernible facts that are out of our range of control. This is the essence of science: we can do things to "defy" gravity, but we cannot alter it. We have the laws of thermodynamics, not the rules of thermodynamics. :-) Thanks for playing. |
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