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| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 05:45 pm EST 12/27/18 | |
| In reply to: re: You can't guess? - Singapore/Fling 05:29 pm EST 12/27/18 | |
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| "I'm not insulting you, I'm commenting on your actions and remarks on this site. If you feel insulted, then that might be motivation to practice your consideration on this site. " Thanks for the advice, I will give it as much thought as it deserves. And OF COURSE you're tremendously insulting me if you think anything I've written here indicates that I "don't want to even consider structural imbalances in our society.” It don't believe you have the objectivity to even realize when you are insulting someone in a case like this. |
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| re: You can't guess? | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 09:11 pm EST 12/30/18 | |
| In reply to: re: You can't guess? - Michael_Portantiere 05:45 pm EST 12/27/18 | |
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| When I brought up the fact that all the critics in New York were white, you went apoplectic, put the word white in quotes as if to somehow deny the truth of it, and said that I was racist for even bringing it up. Then you denied that you denied it and switched the subject. That tends to be your M.O., as you continue to practice here. So yeah, I'm just keeping you honest, not that I expect you to take the effort to acknowledge that. |
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| re: You can't guess? | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 12:11 am EST 12/31/18 | |
| In reply to: re: You can't guess? - Singapore/Fling 09:11 pm EST 12/30/18 | |
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| "I'm just keeping you honest, not that I expect you to take the effort to acknowledge that." How condescending and insulting can you be? Tremendously so, apparently. Anyway, I DO NOT need you of all people to "keep me honest." I am sorry that I went back on my previous decision never again to engage with you directly here, but now I promise this will be the last time. |
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| re: You can't guess? | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 04:42 pm EST 12/31/18 | |
| In reply to: re: You can't guess? - Michael_Portantiere 12:11 am EST 12/31/18 | |
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| How condescending and insulting can you be? Honestly, it’s not nearly as condescending or insulting as the suggestion that a bit of ribbing of a paying audience is remotely similar to what Jews experienced in pre-war Germany. When drag queens start breaking the windows of white-owned businesses and beating up Caucasians on their way to Sunday brunch, we can revisit. |
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| One last, very important point... | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 10:37 am EST 12/31/18 | |
| In reply to: re: You can't guess? - Michael_Portantiere 12:11 am EST 12/31/18 | |
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| ....because this really is the last time I'll engage with you directly: I'm fairly certain that if you were required to use your actual name as a handle on this site, you would not feel comfortable expressing many of the opinions you have expressed (and no doubt will continue to express) in regard to hot-button issues such as the racial makeup of the New York theater critic pool. What I objected to was not your factual statement that all of the major New York theater critics were white, but your conclusion that this means there are certain kinds of theater those critics are unable to appreciate and reward BECAUSE they are white. I realize that the majority of people on this site don't use their real names, but the majority of people on this site don't post incendiary opinions like that. If you were to use your real name as your TB handle, that would at least show that you have the courage of your convictions. But I can't imagine you walking up to Ben Brantley, Jesse Green, Terry Teachout, Elizabeth Vincentelli at a party, or for that matter you sending them emails with your real name attached, saying: "I don't think you, as a white person, can appreciate all kinds of theater because I think you have a limited cultural perspective." |
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| re: One last, very important point... | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 05:27 pm EST 01/02/19 | |
| In reply to: One last, very important point... - Michael_Portantiere 10:37 am EST 12/31/18 | |
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| I don't use my name on this site because it would hurt my standing in the industry to be associated with this site. My comments about the cultural limitations of an all-white critical team would only increase my esteem within the part of the industry that I care about. I would share this thought with the critics who are open to hearing it, and I have been on a panel with a white critic who did acknowledge her cultural limitations. I wouldn't share it with the other critics, but only because I am not authorized by the theater I work for to say such things. But you may have noticed that Jesse Green avoids hip hop theater like the plague, and that's just the most obvious aspect of how our cultural backgrounds affect our ability to process cultural experiences. But really, you're going to spend paragraphs on personal critiques, and not give even one sentence to how exactly the white majority culture that has spent hundreds of years running this country is similar to a people that have been ostracized and murdered en masse for the past two thousand years? |
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