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| re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? | |
| Posted by: chrismpls 06:16 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| In reply to: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? - Zelgo 04:40 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| ...or an alternate reason is that she's sick, which is a thing that happens to humans. | |
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| re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? | |
| Posted by: Shemark 07:22 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? - chrismpls 06:16 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| I saw her in Clueless. So, yes. She did appear. | |
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| re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? | |
| Posted by: HadriansMall 08:27 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? - Shemark 07:22 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| I also saw her. I thought she made this pretty leaden show fairly watchable | |
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| re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? | |
| Posted by: Zelgo 09:14 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? - HadriansMall 08:27 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| Yes, Dove Cameron could be ill as her twitter feed mentions anxiety disorder. I just wish that the theater company would actually say, "She is ill," in these circumstances, rather than shrug their shoulders when they see disappointed patrons entering the show. The company had no problem splattering Cameron's face all over media to sell tickets. A program notice of her absence isn't enough when she's the reason nearly everyone is there. If I were the star and were sick, I'd be angry with the theatre company's response. The audience members, myself included, assuming Cameron is being lazy, focused blame on her. Again, a simple, "She is ill" from the ticket takers would have made everyone feel better about the situation. But, because I don't know if Cameron has been intermittently ill (and nowadays there are so many ways to signal that through social media. Audra M, for example, posted about her illness when she missed performances of Porgy and Bess) or if she's just a lazy actress, I will think twice about purchasing expensive tickets to any show with Cameron in it. |
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| re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? | |
| Posted by: StageLover 09:53 am EST 12/30/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? - Zelgo 09:14 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| So EVERYONE went to see CLUELESS not to see see a musical version of the much-loved film. No, they ALL went to see an actress I've never even heard of. Really? |
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| The night I saw the show... | |
| Posted by: HadriansMall 12:32 pm EST 12/30/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? - StageLover 09:53 am EST 12/30/18 | |
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| The audience was probably 30-40% young girls between the ages of 7-15 and there families. I do think she’s clearly a big part of the draw here. | |
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| re: The night I saw the show... | |
| Posted by: AC126748 02:41 pm EST 12/30/18 | |
| In reply to: The night I saw the show... - HadriansMall 12:32 pm EST 12/30/18 | |
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| I was at the Signature Center seeing FABULATION yesterday afternoon. There were lots of families with preteen and teen girls in the lobby. Some were probably fans of the film, as I noticed at least one girl dressed in Cher's signature yellow-plaid skirt. But I imagine many were there to see Dove (she was out). | |
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| re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 10:05 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? - Zelgo 09:14 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| Her being physically ill and her having anxiety disorder are not necessarily related. And how do you know that "the audience members" decided she was lazy? Did you ask them? Was there an audience-wide discussion before the show began? The only person I've heard trying to disparage the actor is you. |
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| re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? | |
| Posted by: Zelgo 10:16 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? - Singapore/Fling 10:05 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| i heard people say, "I can't believe she did this again," and "I guess I'll never watch her show again." Of course, these are likely temporary reactions to feeling disappointed. That said, in all my years of living, I've never heard anyone blaming an actor like that if he/she's sick. Again, all I ask (and the artist should ask) is that the theatre company just say the words "She is ill." It would stop all focused anger at once. |
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| re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 11:43 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? - Zelgo 10:16 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| She was in the show when I saw it, and she gave a wonderful performance. I am very sorry to hear that she has missed several times, for whatever reason(s). | |
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| Actors are people. They get sick. | |
| Posted by: HadriansMall 09:30 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Did Dove Cameron EVER actually appear in Clueless, the Musical? - Zelgo 09:14 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| Maybe she could have muscled through, maybe not. She’s human. She called out sick to work - something most people have done at some point in their lives. I don’t get the vitriol people post about actors being out. | |
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| re: Actors are people. They get sick. | |
| Posted by: Zelgo 10:09 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| In reply to: Actors are people. They get sick. - HadriansMall 09:30 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| That's the point--from the audience's point-of-view, she didn't "call out sick;" she didn't show. And she did that much of this short run. Perhaps live theatre isn't a great fit for this actress, particularly if she does have an anxiety disorder. She can certainly continue to earn millions in TV and movies without having to face a live audience. As for not getting vitriol that people post about actors being out-- the audience has been promised a certain actor and that promise is splashed on ad after ad and article after article. The audience lays out lots of money to see her, not particularly the show she's in. How do you expect people to react when the actor doesn't show and gives no reason for the absence? Sure, actors are human, but so are audience members. |
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| It is not the theatre's place to say why someone is out. nm | |
| Posted by: ryhog 10:58 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Actors are people. They get sick. - Zelgo 10:09 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| re: It is not the theatre's place to say why someone is out. nm | |
| Posted by: Zelgo 11:31 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| In reply to: It is not the theatre's place to say why someone is out. nm - ryhog 10:58 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| The MET does it all the time. I also remember clearly when Audra was out of Porgy and Bess, the theatre said specifically that she was sick. It's a courtesy. |
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| re: It is not the theatre's place to say why someone is out. nm | |
| Posted by: ryhog 11:38 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: It is not the theatre's place to say why someone is out. nm - Zelgo 11:31 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| it is not a courtesy; it is an invasion of privacy. if Audra asked that it be announced, then it would have been announced. ditto this woman (p.s. I had never heard of her until this thread so some good comes of everything). | |
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| re: It is not the theatre's place to say why someone is out. nm | |
| Posted by: Zelgo 12:03 am EST 12/30/18 | |
| In reply to: re: It is not the theatre's place to say why someone is out. nm - ryhog 11:38 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| Since we don't know if she was, in fact, sick, I'll just assume she's a lazy actress who hates being in a terrible show. Is that better? |
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| re: It is not the theatre's place to say why someone is out. nm | |
| Posted by: ryhog 01:03 am EST 12/30/18 | |
| In reply to: re: It is not the theatre's place to say why someone is out. nm - Zelgo 12:03 am EST 12/30/18 | |
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| assume whatever you want. | |
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| re: It is not the theatre's place to say why someone is out. nm | |
| Last Edit: mikem 11:46 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| Posted by: mikem 11:45 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| In reply to: re: It is not the theatre's place to say why someone is out. nm - ryhog 11:38 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| I'm not saying this is true in this case, but one thing I find extremely annoying is when actors have scheduled absences but the producers won't let anybody know. And then won't give you a refund or exchange when you show up for that planned absence. I was glad to hear that LCT is giving refunds for Laura Benanti's absences in My Fair Lady. |
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| re: Actors are people. They get sick. | |
| Posted by: bobby2 10:08 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
| In reply to: Actors are people. They get sick. - HadriansMall 09:30 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| It's because people remember the days when actors didn't call out as much. Marian Seldes did 1,793 performances of Deathtrap and 1,203 performances of Equus and never missed a show. | |
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| re: Actors are people. They get sick. | |
| Posted by: AC126748 12:58 am EST 12/30/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Actors are people. They get sick. - bobby2 10:08 pm EST 12/29/18 | |
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| People called out back then too. There just wasn’t an Internet to amplify it in real time. And citing one well known example of perfect attendance is entirely anecdotal, but I expect you already know that. | |
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| re: Actors are people. They get sick. | |
| Posted by: Ijest22 01:55 pm EST 12/30/18 | |
| In reply to: re: Actors are people. They get sick. - AC126748 12:58 am EST 12/30/18 | |
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| She’s actually been tweeting about pinched nerves and that she was in the ER on Friday | |
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