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| How did Equity allow there to be 2 Paul Rudd’s? | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 05:32 am EST 02/13/19 | |
| In reply to: "The Show Off" (or "The Show-Off") by George Kelly .... - Ann 07:17 pm EST 02/12/19 | |
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| I hadn’t heard of the older one til now. | |
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| re: How did Equity allow there to be 2 Paul Rudd’s? | |
| Last Edit: AlanScott 03:54 am EST 02/17/19 | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 03:52 am EST 02/17/19 | |
| In reply to: How did Equity allow there to be 2 Paul Rudd’s? - KingSpeed 05:32 am EST 02/13/19 | |
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| It wasn't till the mid or late 1960s that Equity started not allowing two people to use the same names. This was confirmed to me several years ago by someone who worked at Equity and was very kind in answering a question I had about two actors who used the same name during the 1960s. I called just to confirm that they were two different people. Later when I called again to ask a similar question about two other people, a different person refused to give me an answer, saying Equity was not allowed to give out that sort of info. What the person I spoke to the first time did not make clear (probably didn’t know) was that there was a basic restriction, which I later came to understand (I think by coming across an article in which it was discussed): It could only happen if one of the actors worked under contracts for principals and the other actor worked under chorus contracts. The Equity person who was helpful told me that the member who was already in Equity when the other one joined had to give permission to the person who joined later. I think that wasn't true. IIRC, the article I found said that several Equity members were objecting to the fact that a member who joined later was using the same name they were using, so clearly those Equity members had not given their permission, and this led to the change. You may very occasionally come across an ibdb page for someone in which there are some credits that seem to make no sense. You may see a chorus credit in the midst of credits for leading roles in nonmusicals. When you see that, the explanation is usually that two people were using the same name at the same time. I wrote ibdb once or twice about such cases, but I got such remarkably dense replies that I stopped (although the changes were made). |
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| re: How did Equity allow there to be 2 Paul Rudd’s? | |
| Posted by: TheHarveyBoy 05:53 am EST 02/13/19 | |
| In reply to: How did Equity allow there to be 2 Paul Rudd’s? - KingSpeed 05:32 am EST 02/13/19 | |
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| Their careers didn't overlap. Paul the elder's last Broadway performance was in 1979 in the short-lived but hilarious John Guare play BOSOMS AND NEGLECT. He then went to Hollywood and worked mainly, though sparsely, in episodic television, and later taught drama at Sarah Lawrence and the New School. He died of pancreatic cancer in 2010 at the age of 70. | |
| Link | NY Times Obituary: Paul Rudd (1940-2010) |
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| re: How did Equity allow there to be 2 Paul Rudd’s? | |
| Posted by: bobby2 06:00 am EST 02/13/19 | |
| In reply to: re: How did Equity allow there to be 2 Paul Rudd’s? - TheHarveyBoy 05:53 am EST 02/13/19 | |
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| The younger Paul Rudd had to contact him and see if he would relinquish the name. The older one allowed the younger one to have the name since he wasn't planning on returning to the stage. That is how it is done in the acting unions. The oddest case being the two Vanessa Williamses. When the famous one became famous from the Miss America pageant and then joined the acting unions there already was a Vanessa Williams. So the famous one had to be billed as Vanessa L. Williams for a while. Somehow that changed and she became just Vanessa Williams. I always thought the other one was foolishly stubborn to not change her name since Vanessa Williams was very very famous from the pageant and scandal afterwards. | |
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| re: How did Equity allow there to be 2 Paul Rudd’s? | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 05:45 pm EST 02/13/19 | |
| In reply to: re: How did Equity allow there to be 2 Paul Rudd’s? - bobby2 06:00 am EST 02/13/19 | |
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| Would YOU change your name if someone won Miss America? | |
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| re: How did Equity allow there to be 2 Paul Rudd’s? | |
| Posted by: bobby2 08:37 pm EST 02/13/19 | |
| In reply to: re: How did Equity allow there to be 2 Paul Rudd’s? - KingSpeed 05:45 pm EST 02/13/19 | |
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| Well she just didn't win Miss America. She became a national scandal and topic of discussion. So yes If I were an actress with few credits and had the same name as someone like that I would have. It would be like being named Monica Lewinsky or Linda Tripp and trying to not be confused with the one everybody knew. | |
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| Also: 2 Actresses Named Doris Day, Jean Arthur, and Elizabeth Taylor | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 07:09 am EST 02/13/19 | |
| In reply to: re: How did Equity allow there to be 2 Paul Rudd’s? - bobby2 06:00 am EST 02/13/19 | |
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| There were similar situations in the 30's through the 50's when there were two actresses with the same name, specifically Doris Day, Jean Arthur, and Elizabeth Taylor. In each case one, of course, was quite famous and the other pretty obscure. | |
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| and James Stewart | |
| Posted by: comedywest 11:51 am EST 02/14/19 | |
| In reply to: Also: 2 Actresses Named Doris Day, Jean Arthur, and Elizabeth Taylor - BroadwayTonyJ 07:09 am EST 02/13/19 | |
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| aka Stewart Granger | |
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