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Posted by: tmdonahue (tmdonahue@yahoo.com) 12:16 pm EST 03/01/19
In reply to: Addition - AlanScott 07:19 am EST 03/01/19

Patti Lupone on PBS. Judy Kuhn in Washington.
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re: Addition
Posted by: Chazwaza 12:25 pm EST 03/01/19
In reply to: re: Addition - tmdonahue 12:16 pm EST 03/01/19

Kuhn in Washington and then later in John Doyle's off-bway revival, which got a CD cast recording (which I somehow still haven't listened to - i ADORE Passion and Kuhn, but maybe my fear of what Doyle did with it has kept me from it)
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I was hesitant, too
Posted by: showtunetrivia 05:58 pm EST 03/01/19
In reply to: re: Addition - Chazwaza 12:25 pm EST 03/01/19

But we listened to it on a road trip last year--it's virtually the entire show, dialogue and all. If Doyle made odd choices in the staging, they're not obvious aurally. And Kuhn and Luker (the latter subbing for Melissa Errico)--whom I saw at the Kennedy Center--now have their takes on these indelible characters preserved.

Laura, who admits tooling down the I-5 with neurotic Italians singing about their obsessive love may not be to everyone's taste...
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who could guess this of all shows would have THREE cast recordings and a DVD of the original production AND a PBS broadcast concert?
Posted by: Chazwaza 04:56 pm EST 03/02/19
In reply to: I was hesitant, too - showtunetrivia 05:58 pm EST 03/01/19

One of the weirdest and most unlikely and unpopular shows to ever win Best Musical... never even revived on broadway... and it has ALL those recordings. It's pretty damn amazing.
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re: who could guess this of all shows would have THREE cast recordings and a DVD of the original production AND a PBS broadcast concert?
Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 05:56 pm EST 03/02/19
In reply to: who could guess this of all shows would have THREE cast recordings and a DVD of the original production AND a PBS broadcast concert? - Chazwaza 04:56 pm EST 03/02/19

I think if Beauty and the Beast had been written and produced directly for Broadway instead of being an animated film musical first, it would have won the Best Musical Tony and Passion would have been a highly praised but very short-lived Broadway show. However, timing is everything. A Sondheim show that wins a lot of Tonys (including the big prize) is destined to be revived with stellar casts (guaranteeing multiple recordings) and to get a PBS broadcast and DVD release just like Sweeney Todd, Sunday in the Park with George, and Into the Woods.
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re: who could guess this of all shows would have THREE cast recordings and a DVD of the original production AND a PBS broadcast concert?
Posted by: Chazwaza 11:25 pm EST 03/02/19
In reply to: re: who could guess this of all shows would have THREE cast recordings and a DVD of the original production AND a PBS broadcast concert? - BroadwayTonyJ 05:56 pm EST 03/02/19

And yet FOLLIES, undeniably considered one of his actual masterworks (much moreso to many more people than Passion), which has had so many revivals, was never filmed for American TV broadcast.

I just think this is an especially odd one to have gotten so much exposure and documentation. I'm glad it has though. I'm surprised, however, that it hasn't happened for other Sondheim shows like Assassins which hasn't even had a concert Broadcast either.

But it still has never gotten or even been largely rumored to have a major Broadway revival. I wonder if/when that will happen. I really do think Lady Gaga would be a fantastic person to try her hand at Fosca.

And as for B&TB, I love the movie, it's charming and beautiful and infectious, but I do not think it is on the level people want it to be and is very much a musical that mostly sounds like it was written for kids. I am not sure, in 1994, if it would have won if developed specifically for the stage. I think any year after that it would have won being a Disney movie property, but only because of that. It lost because the was a Disney backlash, but that didn't last long. I'd say the same for Aladdin, which is even less adult in writing than B&TB, but that would never have won even when Disney was being embraced, and I am not sure B&TB ever would either unless the competition was really poor or mediocre jukebox.
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re: who could guess this of all shows would have THREE cast recordings and a DVD of the original production AND a PBS broadcast concert?
Posted by: Chromolume 06:52 pm EST 03/03/19
In reply to: re: who could guess this of all shows would have THREE cast recordings and a DVD of the original production AND a PBS broadcast concert? - Chazwaza 11:25 pm EST 03/02/19

And yet FOLLIES, undeniably considered one of his actual masterworks (much moreso to many more people than Passion), which has had so many revivals, was never filmed for American TV broadcast.

"So many revivals" is actually only 2. (Plus the Avery Fisher concert and the Encores concert.) I do think it's a shame that the most recent revival wasn't filmed for broadcast/DVD. And, it's also a shame that the documentary on the Avery Fisher concert didn't include more of the performance (when it came out, didn't we all think it would actually be the show itself?), even though the score and "book" were heavily adapted for that specific concert (also a real disappointment at the time.)

Don't forget that we didn't get an American TV showing of any original production of a Sondheim show until Sweeney Todd, and that was filmed on tour, not on Broadway. The first Broadway production to be shown was Sunday In The Park, already more than a decade later than Follies. It's probable that they weren't even thinking about filming it for TV at the time.

I happen to love Passion, but I tend to wonder if it's ultimately better in a smaller venue - and it has had productions both off-Broadway and in regional theatres. Much as I love it, it's the kind of show that I don't normally think of as a natural for a big Broadway revival.

As for Beauty And The Beast, speaking as a musical director, I've done it once, and have turned down 2 subsequent offers to do it (in both cases I had other competing/better offers, but still...) - so that should tell you how I feel about the show lol. However, I did like the animated film quite a bit.
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re: who could guess this of all shows would have THREE cast recordings and a DVD of the original production AND a PBS broadcast concert?
Posted by: Chazwaza 05:06 am EST 03/05/19
In reply to: re: who could guess this of all shows would have THREE cast recordings and a DVD of the original production AND a PBS broadcast concert? - Chromolume 06:52 pm EST 03/03/19

I didn't just mean in NYC... Papermill was a MAJOR revival, enough to warrant a full cast recording, and was meant to transfer but was stopped by Bobbi Goldman. Also, they can call them what they want, but Encores isn't a concert... so that counts, and that or Papermill could easily have been chosen to be filmed for tv broadcast. And then the 2 full Broadway revivals. There have also been, what, 3 West End productions?
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