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| Never gonna happen now. | |
| Posted by: ShowGoer 11:58 am EST 03/04/19 | |
| In reply to: Lynn Nottage and Christopher Wheeldon - NoPeopleLike 09:59 am EST 03/04/19 | |
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| As if today there’s officially a bigger chance of Louis CK playing a Broadway theatre someday, or Kevin Spacey bringing his Clarence Darrow show back a few years from now, than there is of a Michael Jackson jukebox musical celebrating his catalogue ever reaching the stage. If Motown were somehow still running right now they’d be scrambling and agonizing over whether and how soon they could cut the one number with young Michael leading the Jackson 5. |
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| re: It's not like this is new info | |
| Posted by: earlybird 07:55 pm EST 03/04/19 | |
| In reply to: Never gonna happen now. - ShowGoer 11:58 am EST 03/04/19 | |
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| I'm fairly young, so I didn't grow up during the height of Jackson's fame and musical influence. I was born and raised during the years following his abuse allegations. My first associations with Michael Jackson were of pedophilia and child abuse. It wasn't until he died that I even realized that he was still a respected figure in many ways. I haven't seen the documentary yet, but from what I gather it just provides a more specific account of what was already public knowledge. From my perspective, this musical seemed like a ridiculous venture from the beginning, given the recent Me Too movement and all that. But I guess for the general public it takes a new piece of visual media to remind people of what they already knew (or maybe chose to forget). |
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| re: Never gonna happen now. I think it will definitely happen. | |
| Posted by: PurpleMoney 04:42 pm EST 03/04/19 | |
| In reply to: Never gonna happen now. - ShowGoer 11:58 am EST 03/04/19 | |
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| Lynn Not is writing the book. I can't image she will gloss over the controversy. If I was going to provide the scenario it would be: Art vs. the artist - The explosion of music, creativity, success and the loneliness of fame. | |
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| please Lynn Nottage has no power here | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 09:13 pm EST 03/04/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Never gonna happen now. I think it will definitely happen. - PurpleMoney 04:42 pm EST 03/04/19 | |
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| You think producers and investors ultimately give a f*ck what Ms. Nottage wants to put in this musical? This is WAY WAY bigger than her, or any writer... and I'm sure they will get someone else to write it if she doesn't go with what they want for this show. I'm sure they are "excited" to see her take, but then they will make it whatever they think will sell and get awards, but sell above all else. | |
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| re: I think it will definitely happen. | |
| Posted by: SidL 04:54 pm EST 03/04/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Never gonna happen now. I think it will definitely happen. - PurpleMoney 04:42 pm EST 03/04/19 | |
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| ...tell investors that | |
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| re: I think it will definitely happen. | |
| Posted by: PurpleMoney 07:43 pm EST 03/04/19 | |
| In reply to: re: I think it will definitely happen. - SidL 04:54 pm EST 03/04/19 | |
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| Sorry, If you think it will stop the Broadway show then why hasn't the Vegas show(s) closed? | |
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| Not to mention... | |
| Posted by: ShowGoer 06:25 pm EST 03/04/19 | |
| In reply to: re: I think it will definitely happen. - SidL 04:54 pm EST 03/04/19 | |
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| ...the Michael Jackson estate has full and total approval over the project. So, there’s that. Regardless of what Nottage wants to write, the estate (with their $100-million-dollar lawsuits) certainly won’t allow any allusions to, let alone outright mention of, the accusations... and as SidL implies, investors won’t commit to a show that isn’t, out of necessity after this week, a whole lot darker than it was probably ever intended to be. |
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| re: Not to mention... | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 12:38 pm EST 03/05/19 | |
| In reply to: Not to mention... - ShowGoer 06:25 pm EST 03/04/19 | |
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| What Nottage et al. need to do is write a DREAMGIRLS-esque show about an icon not unlike Michael Jackson who is hugely influential in the music industry and is beloved by millions, but who also has a dark side. Then they can incorporate whatever dark matter they want without having to hew strictly to the truth of Jackson's life and without having to deal with the estate/family. It'll be clear that the show is inspired by Jackson, but, if it's presented as a fictional story, I don't think anyone can sue them or shut them down. Did DREAMGIRLS ever face any litigation from Diana Ross or anyone else associated with the Supremes? |
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| But then... | |
| Posted by: ShowGoer 12:47 pm EST 03/05/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Not to mention... - JereNYC 12:38 pm EST 03/05/19 | |
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| ... what’s the hook? Who’s writing the score? And, if it’s all Michael Jackson-style soundalikes (like the Supremes pastiches in Dreamgirls), then after Nottage’s long-gestating involvement in the Jackson show, once again I don’t think there’s any doubt that the Jackson estate would (at least try to) sue, whether they have a case or not. I see what you’re saying, and in a vacuum it’s an excellent idea - frankly I’d love to see that show - but given all the givens, I think my point stands that in almost any incarnation this show is doomed. |
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