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| re: How does something as underdeveloped as SUPERHERO get produced on that level? | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 03:40 pm EST 03/08/19 | |
| In reply to: re: How does something as underdeveloped as SUPERHERO get produced on that level? - ryhog 01:50 pm EST 03/08/19 | |
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| "Your premise is that these are examples of unworthy plays, but that is based only on your opinions which are not in line with the majority opinions. And again, nothing wrong with your opinions being different, but they cannot provide an intellectually sound foundation for your conclusion. And this seems to be a troubling (to me) pattern lately." I think I understand, and I agree that this would be troubling if it were, in fact, what I'm doing -- but I don't think this is what I'm doing. Maybe there is some confusion over what plays we're discussing in this thread? My memory of STRAIGHT WHITE MEN is that many of the reviews for the play itself were mixed to negative, and although I've only read three reviews of DADDY in the past couple of days, there were all very negative. As far as Shanley and McNally, so many of their plays have been so negatively received that I hardly think I need cite any examples. Can you specify which examples I've given of plays I consider unworthy where that opinion was not in line with the majority? And before you bring up TORCH SONG again, I can only repeat that a LOT of the word of mouth that I PERSONALLY heard about the recent production was very negative -- but I do recognize that this does not comport with the majority of reviews that were written by professional theater critics. |
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| re: How does something as underdeveloped as SUPERHERO get produced on that level? | |
| Posted by: ryhog 06:46 pm EST 03/08/19 | |
| In reply to: re: How does something as underdeveloped as SUPERHERO get produced on that level? - Michael_Portantiere 03:40 pm EST 03/08/19 | |
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| The reviews of Straight White Men were overwhelmingly positive, the only truly negative reviews from substantial sources being Hilton Als and Terry Teachout. The reviews of Daddy are definitely more mixed but overall not negative or "very negative." Those are the examples. (I'll put Torch Song to bed.) So perhaps your premise on the two is flawed based on factual mistakes rather than on some pathological resistance (:-) ) to facts, and now that you can see the facts hopefully you can appreciate the issue I am/was having. |
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| re: How does something as underdeveloped as SUPERHERO get produced on that level? | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 09:43 pm EST 03/08/19 | |
| In reply to: re: How does something as underdeveloped as SUPERHERO get produced on that level? - ryhog 06:46 pm EST 03/08/19 | |
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| The argument that there is not a resistance to facts would only hold water if we hadn't already had at least one conversation in which the reviews of SWM were claimed to be negative and proven to be positive. That didn't change the argument then, and I doubt it will change the argument now. After all, if anyone wanted to check their memory of the reviews, they could quickly visit Show Score and confirm that SWM sits at 72/73 with critics and audiences, which in Show Score parlance means 4 stars. | |
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