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| Last Edit: PlayWiz 11:42 pm EDT 03/10/19 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 11:37 pm EDT 03/10/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Um... - Michael_Portantiere 09:41 pm EDT 03/10/19 | |
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| Isn't one of the main plot points of "Taming of the Shrew" all about the battle of the sexes? It's not the battle of the sex-less/gender neutral. It was rather a point of pride I believe with Cole Porter that he actually set to music Shakespeare's actual words for that one final song, probably because he didn't think he could do the Bard any better. If Cole Porter, a master of song thought that way, why are people tinkering with a show that played like gangbusters for years? Are they afraid of offending people, instead of perhaps just inviting lively discussions afterwards about the state of relationships between men and women? |
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| re: Um... | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 10:51 pm EDT 03/11/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Um... - PlayWiz 11:37 pm EDT 03/10/19 | |
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| On the one hand, I would think the lyrics of "I Am Ashamed That Women Are So Simple" wouldn't necessarily present a problem even nowadays, because those lyrics are supposed to be sung by Lilli in the role of Kate, the "shrew" in the Shakespeare play, set hundreds of years ago in Renaissance Italy, not by Lilli as Lilli, the star of a 1940s Broadway-bound musical. But I guess the problem is that Kate's song of capitulation is what Lilli sings right after she returns to Fred, so I guess it's natural to interpret that the words Kate is singing are also what Lilli believes about herself, even if that's now what Porter and the Spewacks meant. Are we agreed that this is the main issue with that song, and therefore with KISS ME, KATE in general? |
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| Posted by: Billhaven 11:53 pm EDT 03/11/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Um... - Michael_Portantiere 10:51 pm EDT 03/11/19 | |
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| If they meant something else they should have written something else. There are no more private lines, only the lines in the song. Besides, we are not seeing The Taming of the Shrew we are watching Fred and Lilli’s Musical version called Kiss Me Kate. There are countless musical versions of Shakespeare that use those plays as a jumping off point-Your Own Thing, Music Is, Boys From Syracuse, Rockabye Hamlet. |
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