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| re: Oklahoma ending question -- Spoilers! Beware | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 10:11 pm EDT 06/19/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Oklahoma ending question -- Spoilers! Beware - robert_j 09:57 pm EDT 06/19/19 | |
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| "It feels like an experimental take from a regional company that was fast tracked to Broadway without being adequately workshopped to work through all the kinks in the concept." It may feel that way, but it was not fast-tracked. Fish first did a version of the production back in 2007 with students at Bard. The Bard production that was widely covered — which I think followed a workshop — was in 2015. Then it opened at St. Ann's last October (previews started in late September). My only point, just in case it's not clear, is that more time would not have made much if any difference. Whatever anyone may not like about this production, those things are not because the production was fast-tracked. |
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| Falling On Your Own Knife | |
| Posted by: Dawson 10:30 pm EDT 06/19/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Oklahoma ending question -- Spoilers! Beware - AlanScott 10:11 pm EDT 06/19/19 | |
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| As noted, in the original production of Oklahoma!, Jud dies by falling on his own knife. I believe that is exactly how Crown dies in Porgy and Bess | |
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| re: Falling On Your Own Knife | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 11:51 pm EDT 06/19/19 | |
| In reply to: Falling On Your Own Knife - Dawson 10:30 pm EDT 06/19/19 | |
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| "As noted, in the original production of Oklahoma!, Jud dies by falling on his own knife. I believe that is exactly how Crown dies in Porgy and Bess." Your memory is incorrect, that's not how Crown dies in PORGY AND BESS. I believe Porgy strangles him during a struggle when Crown comes back to Catfish Row to get Bess. Falling on his own knife IS the way that Billy Bigelow dies in the rewritten version of his death scene that was done for the movie of CAROUSEL. |
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| re: Falling On Your Own Knife | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 10:41 pm EDT 06/19/19 | |
| In reply to: Falling On Your Own Knife - Dawson 10:30 pm EDT 06/19/19 | |
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| I think you meant to reply to the OP perhaps? Anyway, I believe that I have quoted the exact sequence from the published script of Oklahoma! at least once here in the past and I will do so again: (. . . Now Jud enters. Everyone becomes quiet and still, sensing trouble.) Jud: Weddin’ party still goin’ on? Glad I ain’t too late. Got a present for the groom. But first I want to kiss the bride. (He grabs Laurey. Curly pulls him off.) An’ here’s my present fer you. (He socks Curly. The fight starts, with the crowd moving around the two men. Jud pulls out a knife and goes for Curly. Curly grabs his arms and succeeds in throwing him. Jud falls on his knife, groans and lies still. The crowd surges toward his motionless body.) |
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| re: Falling On Your Own Knife | |
| Posted by: winters 08:34 am EDT 06/20/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Falling On Your Own Knife - AlanScott 10:41 pm EDT 06/19/19 | |
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| Perhaps this production should be retitled as.....based upon the Original R&H Production of Oklahoma. It seems as if some liberties have been taken with the ending, giving it a whole new meaning. Perhaps this production is not a direct reference to justice in America under this administration but.....The Central Park Five case is largely in the news today....it is very much a commentary on American justice. Perhaps it is on Broadway today because the producers believed that under this administration the message is more relevant than ever. My conjecture. I also needed to appeal to this board for clarification of the ending. From where I was sitting (the 100 section) I couldn't completely determine what was happening. As for the liberties taken? The R&H people must have approved of them. Accept it on its merits or not.....and I saw it as a mixed bag....it is kind of exciting.........when an older established work is rethought and presented in a different light. Granted there are many times when new ideas are not always good ideas.....case in point is the most recent Glass Menagerie....I HATED it....every thing about it....I've heard from some people who's opinions I respect speak about it in ways I did not comprehend but they appreciated. Okay. My point is: It's live theater. Sometimes it's nice when a recreation of the original is done and some times it is exciting when something new is attempted. Last thoughts....the ballet...I would have stayed in the bathroom longer if I knew. Ali Stroker's Ado Annie was a revelation. I walked in thinking how generous the director was using an actor in a wheelchair...and how liberal of me to accept that... And I walked out realizing that her use of the wheel chair is an aspect of the actress, not the totality of her talents. I did not need to make mental adjustments, I accepted the performance as presented. A different take on an old classic and I've learned something. The magic of live theater! |
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