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re: Not exactly cold-blooded murder, to me
Posted by: JAllenC3 04:18 pm EDT 06/20/19
In reply to: re: Not exactly cold-blooded murder, to me - Michael_Portantiere 10:58 am EDT 06/20/19

You keep talking about this "sex scene" between Laurey and Jud. I didn't see it (or hear it) that way when I saw the show and neither did many other people who saw the production as they've stated here. Is it possible that YOU read into something that Daniel Fish didn't intend?
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re: Not exactly cold-blooded murder, to me
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 04:30 pm EDT 06/20/19
In reply to: re: Not exactly cold-blooded murder, to me - JAllenC3 04:18 pm EDT 06/20/19

"You keep talking about this 'sex scene' between Laurey and Jud. I didn't see it (or hear it) that way when I saw the show and neither did many other people who saw the production as they've stated here. Is it possible that YOU read into something that Daniel Fish didn't intend?"

I honestly don't know what you're talking about. As has been noted every time the scene in question has been mentioned, the scene in question takes place in total darkness. Jud and Laurey enter, then the lights black out, then we hear sounds of some kind of sexual interaction -- it could be just very deep kissing, it could be fellatio. Then the lights come up, and we see Jud doing up his pants.

So, what did you hear that was different from what I heard? And what do you think the audience is supposed to think is happening in the blackout?
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re: Not exactly cold-blooded murder, to me
Posted by: schlepper 04:52 pm EDT 06/20/19
In reply to: re: Not exactly cold-blooded murder, to me - Michael_Portantiere 04:30 pm EDT 06/20/19

"I honestly don't know what you're talking about. As has been noted every time the scene in question has been mentioned, the scene in question takes place in total darkness. Jud and Laurey enter, then the lights black out, then we hear sounds of some kind of sexual interaction -- it could be just very deep kissing, it could be fellatio. Then the lights come up, and we see Jud doing up his pants.

So, what did you hear that was different from what I heard? And what do you think the audience is supposed to think is happening in the blackout?"

And it could just as easily be the sound of Jud exposing himself and jerking off in front of her. There's nothing at all in the scene to suggest that she was a participant -- willing or otherwise. But I'm sure you'll come back with a 12 paragraph response detailing why that's not the case and why you still hate the show! LOL
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re: Not exactly cold-blooded murder, to me
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 05:32 pm EDT 06/20/19
In reply to: re: Not exactly cold-blooded murder, to me - schlepper 04:52 pm EDT 06/20/19

"And it could just as easily be the sound of Jud exposing himself and jerking off in front of her. There's nothing at all in the scene to suggest that she was a participant -- willing or otherwise. But I'm sure you'll come back with a 12 paragraph response detailing why that's not the case and why you still hate the show! "

Twelve paragraphs not necessary. At the performance I attended, I definitely heard sounds of Laurey participating in some sort of sexual contact or at least DEEP kissing with Jud -- there were lip smacking sounds from Rebecca Naomi Jones and some soft moaning, in addition to the sounds that were coming from Patrick Vail. Did you honestly think the sounds you heard in the blackout sounded like Jud masturbating, with no reaction or participation from Laurey? I can't imagine what's the point in you or anyone else mischaracterizing the sounds heard in the blackout. It is what it is, and I didn't direct it, I'm only reacting to it.
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