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| Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts | |
| Posted by: Dawson 01:52 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Li'l Abner, The Pirates of Penzance, Top Banana, The Pajama Game. Any others? |
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| From the source herself | |
| Posted by: Dawson 11:06 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts - Dawson 01:52 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| In her autobiography, Doris Day states that she turned down The Graduate because she couldn't see herself having sex with a younger man. | |
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| Posted by: larry13 12:11 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: From the source herself - Dawson 11:06 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Look, I love Doris Day but the facts are that her second husband was four years younger and her fourth, wed not that long after this book was published, was thirteen years younger. Whether or not this was the real reason she turned down playing Mrs. Robinson, the facts again are that it was HER loss and OUR gain: Anne Bancroft was brilliant. |
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| An odd little fact | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 11:02 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts - Dawson 01:52 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| The film of Top Banana and the New Faces opened on the same day in New York — February 19, 1954. | |
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| re: ISn;t it interesting that THE PROM is the only musical among the lists of those filmed .... | |
| Posted by: NewtonUK 10:41 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts - Dawson 01:52 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| ... which was a flop. Doesn't matter if you loved it. It was a flop. They couldnt sell tickets. Usually a film is made from a hit musical, because people all over America who cant get to NYC want to see it, and there are $ to be made. Here is a musical that no one outside tri State had heard of (not no one - dont yell at me - but you know what I mean), and that there is no clamor from across the Globe to memorialize this show on film. I hope its wonderful. I'm curious to see how much of script and score they use! |
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| re: ISn;t it interesting that THE PROM is the only musical among the lists of those filmed .... | |
| Posted by: Ann 11:26 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ISn;t it interesting that THE PROM is the only musical among the lists of those filmed .... - NewtonUK 10:41 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| I've also wondered how much of the score will be used. I think they're going with it as an inspiring story on it's own, since they're putting out the novel, too. |
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| re: ISn;t it interesting that THE PROM is the only musical among the lists of those filmed .... | |
| Posted by: EvFoDr 11:54 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ISn;t it interesting that THE PROM is the only musical among the lists of those filmed .... - Ann 11:26 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| Since the score hasn’t been heard by enough people or been around long enough to be cemented in the minds of the masses, it seems they have the opportunity to revisit and make the film its own animal. They have some natural opportunities for “performing” songs since so many of the characters are musical theatre performers. Maybe they will go that route and remove some of the book songs. | |
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| re: ISn;t it interesting that THE PROM is the only musical among the lists of those filmed .... | |
| Posted by: Ann 12:49 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ISn;t it interesting that THE PROM is the only musical among the lists of those filmed .... - EvFoDr 11:54 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| That makes perfect sense. | |
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| Film Versions of Flop Musicals | |
| Posted by: Dawson 10:53 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ISn;t it interesting that THE PROM is the only musical among the lists of those filmed .... - NewtonUK 10:41 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| Paint Your Wagon, Hazel Flagg (as Living it Up ), On a Clear Day You Can See Forever. Not all film versions of musicals are from hits. |
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| Fixing 'Your Wagon' | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 12:05 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: Film Versions of Flop Musicals - Dawson 10:53 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| ''Paint Your Wagon'' is a strange case. The plot of the 1969 movie, starring Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood, seems to bear little resemblance to the 1951 Broadway musical. In the stage version, Ben Rumson, a crusty old miner, has a 16-year-old daughter, Jennifer, who falls in love with a Mexican prospector named Julio. in the film version, adapted by Paddy Chayefsky, Ben and a younger miner, Pardner, fight over the affections of Elizabeth, a wife that Ben has bought from a Mormon. Lerner & Loewe's original songs, like ''Wand'rin Star,'' ''I Talk to the Trees,'' ''I Still See Elisa,'' etc., are in the movie but often in a different context, and other tunes have been dropped in favor of new ones by Lerner and Andre Previn. | |
| Link | 'Paint Your Wagon': Trailer |
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| Analysis of the film version of PAINT YOUR WAGON | |
| Posted by: Alcindoro 02:46 pm EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: Fixing 'Your Wagon' - WaymanWong 12:05 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| Film critic Nathan Rabin's essay on the PAINT YOUR WAGON film is highly amusing and even thought-provoking. It's linked below. It's also included in his book MY YEAR OF FLOPS, in which he takes another look at some of the classic Hollywood bombs of the 60s through the 90s. The whole book is extremely entertaining and may actually make you consider reassessing certain films you may have long ago dismissed. Of special interest to this group might be his appraisal of the film version of MAME. I highly recommend it. | |
| Link | CASE #50 PAINT YOUR WAGON |
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| That was great! Thanks for posting. n/m | |
| Posted by: Dawson 03:18 pm EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: Analysis of the film version of PAINT YOUR WAGON - Alcindoro 02:46 pm EDT 06/28/19 | |
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| re: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts | |
| Posted by: stevemr 05:43 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts - Dawson 01:52 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Bells Are Ringing | |
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| Judy Holliday, Jean Stapleton, Dort Clark, Bernie West and I think that's it (nm) | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 06:53 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts - stevemr 05:43 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Last Edit: GrumpyMorningBoy 05:01 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| Posted by: GrumpyMorningBoy 04:56 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts - Dawson 01:52 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Being a Hollywood film star is an entirely different skill set. For the most part, a movie star for a movie musical is probably going to give a better on-screen performance than the Broadway actor. Yes, rare crossover exceptions exist. They coulda made "My Fair Lady" with Julie Andrews, if the studio had gone for it, and yeah, she might have become a film star via that instead of "Mary Poppins." Who knows. But we are verrrrryyyy far removed from the Golden Age. Considering HOW MUCH CONTENT is out there in the media marketplace, breaking through the noise is harder than ever before. If a film is cast with all unknowns -- no matter how talented they may be -- it simply won't get noticed. Beyond that, I'm willing to argue that I'd rather see a movie musical with actual movie stars -- who can actually sing -- than simply a cast of theater people. Catherine Zeta-Jones in "Chicago," Anne Hathaway in "Les Miz," Amy Adams in "Enchanted," Emma Stone in "La La Land," Zac Efron in "The Greatest Showman," John Travolta in "Hairspray", Emily Blunt in "Mary Popppins Returns" -- they not only sold tickets, but they delivered the goods. They're great film actors. Who, thankfully, all have a background in performing musical theater on stage. Yes, I'm willing to concede that Keala Settle was the best part of "The Greatest Showman." And a few (unknown to the masses) Broadway stars could become movie stars if the timing is right. But being great on screen and being great on stage really is an entirely different skill set. Daveed Diggs was ELECTRIC in HAMILTON. His on-screen performances have been fairly dull. If I were casting a film adaptation of HAMILTON, I wouldn't cast him, even though he was terrific on stage. Some people are great at both. But if you want the film to be a hit, you've gotta cast people who, first and foremost, are great on screen, and have the kind of following and name recognition to get press and visibility. - GMB, who is willing to argue that the few film musical adaptations made with their Broadway casts are not among our "best" movie musicals |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: Singapore/Fling 07:57 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - GrumpyMorningBoy 04:56 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| To be fair, Daveed was also underwhelming in "White Noise". I don't think he is as strong as straight realism as he is in a more performative role. | |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: Snowysdad 06:07 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - GrumpyMorningBoy 04:56 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| I think it is not as black and white as the posts make it out to be. Some musicals play well with movie actors, even when dubbed but then certain pieces (Chicago is at the top of my list) demand the sense of musical theater from its cast that movie actors can not deliver. Ms. Zeta Jones and Queen Latifa (is there ANYTHING this immensely talented lady can not do and do superbly?) were the only members of the cast that I did not hate. Renee Zellweger and Richard Gere really were miscast. Chicago pulsates with Kander and Ebbs score, so that even when there is no major musical number at hand, the characters have to move as if there were. The Music Man makes the same kind of demands, and mercifully the first movie version cast musical theater pros, albeit some with some screen fame. My Fair Lady doesn't make the same kind of demands. But look at what a mess they made of Carousel, Les Miz (its an opera and none of its cast looked at all like they had the ability to sing it), and so many others. When they get around to filming Wicked, they will need to cast the two leads with experienced stage actresses and ditto for Fiero, but the rest of the cast not so much. | |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Last Edit: GrumpyMorningBoy 08:23 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| Posted by: GrumpyMorningBoy 08:19 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - Snowysdad 06:07 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| First off, must concur about Queen Latifa. One of the most versatile performers working in America. Easily. Also, good points about how the requirements of a musical really vary by work and role. I don't hate Shirley Jones, but I don't exactly love her either, and yet, she could definitely SING. And considering the way she leapt from an understudy role in ME AND JULIET to star in "Oklahoma!", they undeniably felt like they'd found a real star-in-waiting and took a gamble. She's a natural on screen. I similarly don't have hard feelings about seeing Audrey Hepburn in MY FAIR LADY, Natalie Wood in WEST SIDE STORY, or Debra Kerr in THE KING & I, even if it might have been lovely to see how Marni Nixon might have actually performed these roles if she'd been given the chance to do more than dub the songs! But back to THE KING & I, some roles really do need the Broadway stars. It's impossible to imagine the film without Yul Brenner. Same goes for Robert Preston, Joel Grey, and Robert Morse in their respective starring roles. And yeah, Hollywood really screwed up sometimes. Zero Mostel should have played Tevye on screen. And Carol Channing should have played Dolly. Alas, I do think the current crop is, by and large, doing a good job of splitting the difference. I'm encouraged by the casting notices for Spielberg's "West Side Story" and John Chu's forthcoming "In The Heights." There's such a robust talent pool of actors working in TV & Film who got their start -- and their training -- in musical theatre, and when you've got TV shows like "Glee," "Pose," "Supergirl" and "The Flash" making TV stars of musical theatre people, we're extra lucky. All in all, it's a great time for the movie musical. And if Broadway stars don't have the chance to create their roles in the film versions -- as Idina Menzel will undoubtedly not get to do when WICKED becomes a film -- some of them get to play a Disney character and become a movie stars, anyway. - GMB |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: Snowysdad 11:46 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - GrumpyMorningBoy 08:19 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Thanks for the compliments. I agree with all of your examples. Many could have played Dolly on screen, not just Carol Channing, but certainly Barbra Streisand was an odd choice at that stage in her career. I salivate when I think of some of the great roles should could have played, had musicals not been death by no box office: Mame Norma Desmond ***************his 68 year old mind goes blank...................... |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 04:02 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Streisand wasn't really an odd choice for the DOLLY! film when you consider that she was a huge, Oscar-winning movie star who'd come from the world of musical theatre. She was probably the biggest star of the time who could have played the role. Sure, she was too young for it, but she sang the hell out of it and played the role wonderfully. The actresses who'd played Dolly on stage were mainly thought to be past their prime and I imagine that DOLLY was often considered to be a "comeback" vehicle for faded star ladies who hadn't been seen in quite some time prior. Even Channing had to fight for the role at a time when she hadn't really had a big hit in a decade or more. I can't imagine that any of them were seriously considered for the film. Perhaps Channing was, simply because she'd originated the role. The only other movie star with experience in musicals who was at the near top of her game at the time was Julie Andrews, and I imagine that people would've thought Andrews even more miscast than Streisand. |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 05:16 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - JereNYC 04:02 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Also Doris Day was still a big name, although around that time she had to commit to a tv series that her recently-deceased husband/manager had saddled her with along with debts. | |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: Ned3301 06:30 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - PlayWiz 05:16 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Doris Day's ID was that of the absolutely honest and direct woman who was constantly amazed by the unscrupulous nature of the men she got involved with. It was part of the fun that the audience could see instantly what a seductive phony Rock Hudson (for example) could be while it took Day much of the film before she caught on. But Dolly is a finagler, a manipulator. It would have been impossible for the public to accept Day in a role like that, and it seems very unlikely that she was ever seriously considered for Hello, Dolly! Casting her would have thrown the story off its pins. |
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| Doris Day's ID was that of the absolutely honest and direct woman... | |
| Posted by: Dawson 09:01 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - Ned3301 06:30 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Hmm. Love Me or Leave Me. Julie, Midnight Lace. | |
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| Doris Day -- Versatile, Underrated Actress | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 09:35 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 09:34 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: Doris Day's ID was that of the absolutely honest and direct woman... - Dawson 09:01 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Also, Storm Warning. In one of her most popular films Calamity Jane, Day drives a stagecoach, battles the Sioux, hangs out in a saloon, is referred to as a teller of tall tales -- and pulls it all off beautifully. BTW she introduces "Secret Love" and knocks it out of the park. | |
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| CALAMITY JANE | |
| Posted by: Dawson 09:48 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: Doris Day -- Versatile, Underrated Actress - BroadwayTonyJ 09:34 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| As you probably know. Calamity Jane was Warner Brother' consolation prize because they would not loan her to MGM for Annie Get Your Gun. | |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Last Edit: PlayWiz 06:51 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 06:47 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - Ned3301 06:30 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Doris was offered the role of Mrs. Robinson around that time in "The Graduate". Some folks thought she might like to change up the kinds of roles she could play, since her film career pretty much ended in 1968 with "With Six You Get Eggroll" before she went into that tv show commitment. After that she seemed to lose interest in her acting career. But Mrs. Robinson would have been much more a drastic change to her image than Dolly. Of course, more in line with her image, she would have made a terrific Maria in "The Sound of Music", much as I love Julie Andrews in the role. I've even seen a paperback where the drawing of Maria with the children looks very much like Doris Day! | |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: Ned3301 10:58 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - PlayWiz 06:47 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| They wanted Day for Mrs. Robinson precisely because it went against the image she had established, the idea being to show how treacherous even mid-American suburban life can be. And Day would surely have been superb in the part. But Dolly is, I think, one of those bridges too far. Day as an adulterous termagant--she gets quite vicious when Benjamin interrupts the wedding--would have been a fascinating shock. Dolly would have found her just wrong for the character, neither typical Day nor the opposite. Dolly really is a kind of Topsy, and I just don't associate Day with that kind of mischief-making. I can see her Mrs. Robinson. I can't see her Dolly. For that matter, I think she was too American for Maria--but then so was Mary Martin, and that worked out fine. |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 11:38 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - Ned3301 10:58 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| I think Day as Ruth Etting showed that she could play a calculating, manipulative person who will use someone, even marry him, to further her career, even though she later realizes the pitfalls of this kind of plan of action. While Ruth Etting had her singing talent, Dolly has humor to pad some of her more aggressive machinations. Day might not have been perfect casting, but so many different women have played her over the years. The wonderful writing of her character gives some wide lattitude, and the humor of Dolly really makes her seem real, palatable and a fun person to spend a few hours with. | |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 11:15 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 11:14 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - PlayWiz 11:38 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Exactly. Also, in films like It Happened to Jane and Pillow Talk, Day played smart, tough, and (at times) ruthless businesswomen, who could outfox a scumbag competitor (Ernie Kovacs) and exact a little revenge on a deceptive (but likeable) womanizer (Rock Hudson). She actually was considered for Dolly, but I don't know how seriously given the juggernaut for Streisand. Day would have been a fine Dolly Gallagher Levi. She was the right age, had the comic and musical chops, and her real life circumstances in the late 60's were quite similar to Dolly's. She would have brought the poignance to the role that was lacking in Streisand's portrayal. If she had been cast in the film, her frequent co-star Tony Randall would have been a perfect Horace. I think audiences would have responded enthusiastically to see Day as Dolly setting her cap for the guy she always rejected romantically in their previous pairings. |
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| Last Edit: PlayWiz 11:27 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 11:26 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - BroadwayTonyJ 11:14 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
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| I love the idea of Tony Randall as Horace! He might even have have transformed in a more believable way than the typical Horace to have some romantic sparks with his Dolly, which he exhibited when Randall played the romantic, but still comic lead opposite Debbie Reynolds in "The Mating Game". | |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: mermaniac 10:00 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - GrumpyMorningBoy 08:19 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Maureen O'Hara in "The King and I". Judy Garland (or Susan Hayward) in "Gypsy". And, yes, without question: Angie in "Mame." |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 07:56 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 07:52 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - mermaniac 10:00 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Frank Sinatra, Phil Silvers, and Deanna Durbin as Sky, Nathan, and Sarah in Guys and Dolls -- and put back all those great Frank Loesser songs. Doris Day and Anthony Perkins as Nellie and Joe Cable in South Pacific -- and for God's sake let Juanita Hall sing Mary's songs. |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 02:32 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - BroadwayTonyJ 07:52 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| Great casting ideas for "Guys and Dolls" -- Deanna Durbin would have been great. I love Vivian Blaine on the OCR as Adelaide, but I think she was somewhat mis-directed in the film. I wonder if Judy Holliday's name ever came up for the film? Also, why did they take out "Bushel and a Peck" which was one of the best known songs outside of the show and replace it with the lesser Loesser "Pet Me, Poppa"? | |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 09:19 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - PlayWiz 02:32 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| I read somewhere that Sam Goldwyn loved Blaine's stage performance and insisted that she play Adelaide in the film. I actually like her film performance, but I admit she is very Broadway in the movie. I vaguely recall an interview Blaine did decades ago about "Pet Me, Poppa" replacing "Bushel and a Peck" -- something like the original song was perceived as being too overtly sexual -- she said the reason that was given was pretty dumb. |
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| "And Carol Channing should have played Dolly." | |
| Last Edit: Dawson 08:44 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| Posted by: Dawson 08:43 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - GrumpyMorningBoy 08:19 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| My understanding is that 20th Century Fox was actively considering Carol Channing for Hello, Dolly!. She even "auditioned" for the film by playing a leading role in Thoroughly Modern Millie. However, even though she was nominated for Best Supporting Actress for her performance, 20th Century Fox decided her performing persona was not really suited to film and passed on her for the film of Dolly!. | |
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| re: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts | |
| Posted by: Ned3301 04:35 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Damn Yankees, except for Tab Hunter. Also Whoopee. |
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| Posted by: StageDoorJohnny 10:46 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| most of the Broadway principals (and one major B'way replacement) were in 1776 EDIT Hadn't seen below mentions -- sorry |
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| HELLZAPOPPIN' | |
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| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 04:06 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts - Dawson 01:52 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Ole Olsen and Chic Johnson repeated their lead roles from the Broadway cast. A few others in the film had been replacements on Broadway; however, most of the roles in the film were filled by actors more well known to movie audiences like Martha Raye, Shemp Howard, and Elisha Cook Jr. I've never seen the movie, but TCM has shown it on occasion. |
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| I think it would be hard to duplicate the zaniness of the stage version in Hellzapoppin' in a film version. n/m | |
| Posted by: Dawson 04:14 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: HELLZAPOPPIN' - BroadwayTonyJ 04:06 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| re: I think it would be hard to duplicate the zaniness of the stage version in Hellzapoppin' in a film version. n/m | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 10:53 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: I think it would be hard to duplicate the zaniness of the stage version in Hellzapoppin' in a film version. n/m - Dawson 04:14 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| It's on YouTube sometimes so you can see it for yourself. It's pretty zany and does stuff like breaking the fourth wall and having a scene being played but interrupted and out of sync, among other things if I recall. Martha Raye is pretty terrific and the jitterbug dancers are insanely wonderful! | |
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| HOW TO SUCCEED IN BUSINESS WITHOUT REALLY TRYING (nmi) | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 03:46 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 03:46 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Michele Lee | |
| Posted by: Dawson 03:49 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: HOW TO SUCCEED IN BUSINESS WITHOUT REALLY TRYING (nmi) - BroadwayTonyJ 03:46 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| I'm not sure if you're counting Michele Lee, but she was a replacement 'Rosemary' on Broadway. | |
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| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 03:52 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: Michele Lee - Dawson 03:49 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Yes, she replaced Bonnie Scott in the Broadway production. Some of the office suits weren't in the Broadway production like Robert Q. Lewis and early Best Actor Tony winner Paul Hartman. | |
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| re: Michele Lee | |
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| Posted by: AlanScott 06:44 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| The film's Hedy, Maureen Arthur, played the role on tour and was a Broadway replacement. To my knowledge, neither Anthony Teague (Frump) nor Kay Reynolds (Smitty) ever appeared in the show on Broadway or one of the national tours. So the film has Morse, Vallee, Sammy Smith, and Ruth Kobart from the original Broadway cast, and two replacements (Lee and Arthur). Jeff DeBenning, who replaced Rudy Vallee on Broadway late in the run and also played Biggley on the second and third national tours, was Gatch in the film. Otherwise, I don't know that anyone in the film was ever in the Broadway production or one of the three tours. Maybe a dancer or two. I don't know. | |
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| They should have used a movie star as Hedy in "How to Succeed..." (re: Maureen Arthur) | |
| Last Edit: Marlo*Manners 09:58 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| Posted by: Marlo*Manners 09:54 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| Maureen Arthur is out of her depth and miscast - and hardly a bombshell. That is a role where washed up Marilyn imitators from the fifties like Sheree North (a dancer), Mamie Van Doren (a singer/dancer) or even late Jayne Mansfield (singer) would have had fun with their (by that time dated) image and killed. I didn't realize that the film came out the year Mansfield died but maybe if she had made the film... Marlo Manners (Lady Barrington) (aging bombshell) |
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| re: They should have used a movie star as Hedy in "How to Succeed..." (re: Maureen Arthur) | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 06:46 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| You're right about Arthur -- definitely out of her depth. Edie Adams, although a little too old, had the comic acting chops and physical attributes the role requires. She was still pretty sexy looking in '67. North was a fine actress, but more of a temptress and always looked like she'd been around the block too many times. Van Doren and Mansfield didn't have the talent. Barbara Eden, Barbara Nichols (also a bit too old, but the right type), and Diane Cilento might have worked in the role. | |
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| Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 02:34 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Anthony "Scooter" Teague was fine, but Reilly did win a supporting Tony for his performance. | |
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| re: Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 09:58 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? - PlayWiz 02:34 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| One possible reason: When rehearsals, pre-recording and then filming started in California (late April-early May 1966), Reilly was in Skyscraper. Another possible reason: They may have thought he would look too old onscreen for the character. Another: They may have thought his performance style would be too big. Even though it's a film with big performances, they may have feared that his style might just be too big to work and he might not be able to adapt. Morse had already made a number of films. |
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| re: Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 08:16 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? - PlayWiz 02:34 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| I was still a teenager when I saw the film of How to Succeed at the movies, so I don't really know the answer to your question. However, Teague had more traditional, movie-actor good looks, and Reilly was a more eccentric looking guy. Over the years Reilly appeared on game shows like What's My Line?, Password, The Match Game and others. I'm not sure of the exact chronology, but he became well known for making double-entendre remarks that signaled his orientation. Back in the 60's, that sort of campy behavior may well have made him difficult to cast in high profile films. Years later, though, it was less of a handicap. Just a guess on my part. | |
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| re: Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 10:50 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? - BroadwayTonyJ 08:16 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Yes, but also within a year or so of the film of "How to Succeed", Reilly was cast as a supporting cast member on the tv series "Ghost and Mrs. Muir" with Hope Lange and Edward Mulhare, so he was able to adapt his performance to the small screen, though he did play a rather wacky character. | |
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| re: Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 11:10 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? - PlayWiz 10:50 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| I used to watch that series. It only ran for two seasons. Reilly was funny, but came across as fussy. He sometimes fancied himself as a romantic interest for Hope Lange, who generally was dismissive of him. Mulhare's character disliked him intensely and always refused to believe that Reilly's character might be his nephew or some sort of descendant. Reilly did a lot of TV, sit-coms as well as game shows. He was very funny, but never offensive or blatant like Paul Lynde (who also employed a gay schtick) frequently was. |
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| re: Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? | |
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| Someone told me when they were choosing an actor to honor among Northwestern University alumni that they would never allow Paul Lynde to be invited again; he apparently was problematic to be around, especially if he was drinking. He was very funny on "Hollywood Squares" and his old short-lived tv series has resurfaced on channels like Antenna TV. Charles Nelson Reilly was held in a high regard as a director, frequently working with Julie Harris, and he always seemed like a good-natured, fun person on "Match Game", among other shows. |
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| re: Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? | |
| Posted by: shaggyhair 11:33 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Was Reilly ever considered by Gene Kelly to play Cornelius in the film version of Dolly? Danny Lockin, who played Barnaby, came from having stage experience with the show and Michael Crawford, who got the part, was a relative unknown outside of England in the late 60s. | |
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| re: Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 12:16 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? - shaggyhair 11:33 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Reilly would have been 38 in '69, too old to be the juvenile lead in the Dolly film. Crawford had already played the juvenile lead in the Funny Thing/Forum film in '66. That said, Gene Kelly was the wrong person to direct Dolly. In a perfect world, I wish someone like Stanley Donen had been allowed to do it. |
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| re: Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 12:06 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| I think that when Reilly and Eileen Brennan were cast as Cornelius and Irene Molloy in the original Broadway cast, they were cast as more over-than-top to match up more with Carol Channing's big, outlandish style in her starring role. Brennan at that point had recently done the title role in the musical spoof "Little Mary Sunshine" off-Broadway, so she wasn't quite a typical ingenue, nor was Reilly a typical juvenile. Then again, Gene Kelly either directed, encouraged or allowed Michael Crawford to be over the top in his own way, which really contrasted to the more grounded and delightful performance of Danny Lockin as Barnaby. Reilly sounds relatively subtle on the OCR compared to Crawford in the film. | |
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| re: Why didn't they use Charles Nelson Reilly as Frump? | |
| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 03:24 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| The casting of eccentric, character types as Cornelius and Irene in HELLO, DOLLY! is a template that I really wish had been followed more in latter years. It seems that those roles are now usually cast (including in the recent revival) with traditionally handsome/pretty leading man/lady types. And that is fine. My admiration for Gavin Creel and Kate Baldwin is second to none. But they can play any number of musical theatre leading roles and are certainly much more castable, in general, than an actor in the Reilly or Brennan mode might be today, so why not cast a wider net when casting these roles? I'd love to see what different energy a younger Brooks Ashmankas might have brought to Cornelius, for example. I believe that I learned in a discussion thread here that the casting of even the original production of HELLO, DOLLY! went more in the traditional direction once Reilly and Brennan left the show. |
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| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 12:19 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Danny Lockin's performance is the only one in the film that I can tolerate. He was actually believable (as opposed to everyone else in the movie). | |
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| re: They should have used a movie star as Hedy in "How to Succeed..." (re: Maureen Arthur) | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 08:04 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| I like Arthur in the movie, and she was cast based on her stage performances in the role, so they knew what they were getting. A too-big name would have unbalanced the movie, not that the people you mention (except perhaps Eden) were really too big by the time the movie was made. But I doubt that Adams would have been interested in the role, and poor Barbara Nichols was probably so tired of those kinds of roles. Van Doren actually did play the role onstage at least once (as I found in a quick ebay search) at the Beef 'n' Boards Dinner Theatre. She also did other theatre, including a Music Fair tour of Silk Stockings in which she played Janice Dayton, with Earl Wrightson and with Lee Grant as Ninotchka! Mansfield, of course, did theatre too. I just read some pans of her in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. |
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| Joi Lansing!! (re: Hedy in "How to Succeed..." (re: Maureen Arthur) | |
| Posted by: Marlo*Manners 10:37 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| And she could sing... Marlo Manners (Lady Barrington) |
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| Link | Alan Scott, you have me trapped in a "Web of Love" for your erudition!!! |
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| re: Joi Lansing!! (re: Hedy in "How to Succeed..." (re: Maureen Arthur) | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 05:33 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
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| First, your link title made me laugh. And then what is at the link made me laugh even more. Thank you for that. I always remember Joi Lansing from the episodes of The Beverly Hillbillies in which she appeared, particularly the one in which (if memory serves) she sang "All of You" to Jethro. I don't recall knowing till I just looked her up that she was in Touch of Evil. Anyway, yes, she probably would have been a very good Hedy, although I do think that Maureen Arthur had quite a good enough figure and an effective almost Channing-like delivery that worked well in the movie. |
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| NEW FACES | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 03:40 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| The film version of the hit Broadway musical revue New Faces of 1952 | |
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| Posted by: SidL 04:40 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Some originals, some replacements, but most had done the show on stage. | |
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| Well whoever was in the show at the time it was filmed ended up in the "movie"- actually it was videotaped for a closed-circuit event for selected cities and later released in theaters - if anyone spent time in Boston in the seventies, you might remember it playing on a double-bill at the Cinema 733 on Boylston Street |
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| PHILEMON (filmed for PBS on TV) (nmi) | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 03:37 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| 1776 nmi | |
| Posted by: FleetStreetBarber 03:08 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Yes! | |
| Posted by: Dawson 03:16 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| I believe the only major cast change is Blythe Danner for Betty Buckley (Martha Jefferson). | |
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| 12 of 26 | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 06:35 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| If my count is right, of the 26 original-cast members, 12 appeared in the film. One Broadway replacement, John Cullum, played the role in which he'd been a replacement. As noted by Haberville, Donald Madden, who never appeared in the show on Broadway or on tour, played John Dickinson, certainly a major role. A bit less major but still important — and also noted by Haberville — the film had Stephen Nathan, not a vet of any incarnation of the stage production, as the Courier. Patrick Hines, who played Samuel Chase in the film, played Dickinson on the bus-and-truck tour and was a replacement Dickinson on the first national. James Noble, a Broadway replacement as Hancock, was Witherspoon in the film. |
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| Posted by: Haberville 04:10 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| There were a couple of other minor to major cast changes in the film of "1776" that weren't played by people who played it during its original broadway run. Donald Madden (Dickinson), Ray Middleton (Thomas McKean) and Stephen Nathan as the Courier, to name a few. | |
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| re: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts | |
| Posted by: mknyc76 02:59 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| RENT, unfortunately. | |
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| Hedwig and the angry inch (off-broadway) n/m | |
| Posted by: discuscd 02:47 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| re:Tony Award winning "Liza's at the Palace" (PBS).. | |
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| ..even though it was filmed in Las Vegas | |
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| I imagine that would count, if we're including concerts... n/m | |
| Posted by: Dawson 05:03 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| ..leave it to those zany folks on the Drama Desk nominating committee to consider it for Outstanding Musical in 2009 | |
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| Drama Desk Awards... | |
| Posted by: Dawson 04:01 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| These are the folks that proclaimed Show Boat the best musical, not revival. So, I am somewhat dubious... | |
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| re: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts | |
| Posted by: TGWW 02:46 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Isn't "Damn Yankees" in the group with everyone but Tab Hunter, even Director George Abbott & Choreographer Bob Fosse? | |
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| DAMN YANKEES? Absolutely! | |
| Posted by: Dawson 02:50 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| The film even has Jean Stapleton! | |
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| re: DAMN YANKEES? Absolutely! | |
| Posted by: mamaleh 05:44 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| ...and Rae Allen! | |
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| re: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts | |
| Posted by: shaggyhair 02:41 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Not exactly the same thing but the 1936 film version of Show Boat has several cast members who had previously played the same role in various incarnations of the 1927 show: Sammy White, Irene Dunne, Paul Robeson, Charles Winninger, Francis X. Mahoney, Helen Morgan...am I missing anybody? | |
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| There's a couple more... | |
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| Posted by: Dawson 03:21 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Allan Jones had played 'Gaylord' at the St. Louis MUNY and Hattie McDaniel had played 'Queenie' in stock in southern California. | |
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| Posted by: stevemr 02:37 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Bells Are RInging | |
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| Posted by: scoot1er 09:26 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Li’l Abner | |
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| re: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 11:01 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| The film of "Li'l Abner" didn't have Edith (Edie) Adams, but instead substituted Leslie Parrish as Daisy Mae, and instead of Charlotte Rae, it had Billie Hayes who I think later took over the role, as Mammy Yokum. I don't know if Stella Stevens played Appassionata on stage at some point, but it was originally Tina Louise. But they did use a lot of the original cast and the highly lauded Michael Kidd choreography was recreated for the film. | |
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| Posted by: AlanScott 11:15 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Billie Hayes did indeed take over the role a bit more than a year into the Broadway run. It does seem that they wanted her for the role originally, but she couldn't get out of her New Faces of 1956 contract. I've read a number of times over the years that Hayes took over shortly into the Broadway run, but that is not correct. I don't think Stella Stevens ever played Appassionata onstage. |
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| Posted by: Dawson 11:49 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts - AlanScott 11:15 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| that Billie Hayes later became available to go into Li'l Abner at the start of the Broadway run, and they tried to buy out Charlotte Rae's contract, but Miss Rae refused. True? | |
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| Posted by: AlanScott 12:24 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: I've Heard... - Dawson 11:49 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| If that happened, I would think it would have been a few weeks after Li'l Abner opened on Broadway as New Faces continued to run for five weeks or so after Abner opened, unless Leonard Sillman decided to let Hayes out of her contract earlier. I think that I've heard a story like that, but I don't know if it's true. | |
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| re: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts | |
| Posted by: Snowysdad 06:27 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Broadway and Off-Broadway Musicals That Were Filmed With Virtually Their Entire Casts - stevemr 02:37 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Also with Jean Stapleton (see Damn Yankees post above) as did Funny Girl. | |
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