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| KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud | |
| Posted by: dramedy 08:35 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: The Cher Show posts closing - Ballerina56 07:33 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud | |
| Posted by: twocents 10:40 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud - dramedy 08:35 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Tomorrow's Mega Millions numbers, please! | |
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| re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud | |
| Posted by: KCforBway 10:34 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
| In reply to: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud - dramedy 08:35 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| LOL - dramedy, you are a true prophet! Cher Show is now out of the picture. So should I see Ain't Too Proud or revisit a show I've seen previously? I'm not sure why, but Ain't Too Proud is just not exciting me right now - maybe I'll change my mind. I may go see Oklahoma! again - I saw an early preview and it was thrilling. In particular, I was pretty wowed by Ali Stroker. So I'm seeing Moulin Rouge!, Hadestown, Tootsie, Beetlejuice, and To Kill a Mockingbird on this trip as well . . . I've seen everything else that will be playing on Broadway except for Ain't Too Proud, Come From Away (but have tickets to the tour in my city this season), and Pretty Woman (no interest at all). |
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| re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud | |
| Last Edit: mikem 07:35 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| Posted by: mikem 07:34 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud - KCforBway 10:34 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| Although it's well accepted that the Leading Actress/Actor Tony does not have much box office pull, this is one of the soonest closings after the Tonys for such a winner for a musical in a while. I think the last one to close faster was when Christine Ebersole won for Grey Gardens, which closed on July 27 of that year. I also don't have much interest in seeing Ain't Too Proud, although I'll get to it at some point. I just don't find the idea of seeing a re-creation of a concert with none of the actual original performers to be all that compelling. I know that there is more to the show than just simulations of concerts, but that seems to be a hefty portion of most biographical jukebox musicals. Beautiful is one of the few such musicals that didn't seem to have a large concert component. I'd much rather have some attempt at an actual storyline. |
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| Best play and musical is about it | |
| Last Edit: dramedy 07:51 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 07:47 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud - mikem 07:34 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| For boxoffice. Even revival musical doesn’t seem to do much for last years once on this island and this years oklahoma, which actually dipped in gross by $23k. Not a lot, but the show isn’t at capacity in a very small house. Only ferryman has had a real increase (since hadestown was at capacity already). And best actor musical winner did nothing for the boxoffice for tootsie. The $55k increase after award show was probably just The number at the tony more than the acting win. | |
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| re: Best play and musical is about it | |
| Posted by: mikem 10:17 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: Best play and musical is about it - dramedy 07:47 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| It's interesting that non-winners The Prom and Beetlejuice seem to be the only nominated musicals that are getting a consistent upward trend (besides Kiss Me, Kate, which is closing on Sunday, and Hadestown, which was sold out already). Beetlejuice has had its two highest-grossing weeks since the Tonys, and The Prom's past week is its second-best ever behind Christmas week. Ain't Too Proud, Oklahoma and The Cher Show have had a down week in the past two weeks. Tootsie has gone up both weeks, but is still lagging behind its May peak. | |
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| re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud | |
| Posted by: lowwriter 01:50 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud - KCforBway 10:34 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| What about off Broadway? | |
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| re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud | |
| Posted by: KCforBway 10:23 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud - lowwriter 01:50 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| I am considering off-broadway, but as I perused the playbill.com listings for off-broadway, I'm not finding much that resonates with my interest. Any buzz on Broadway Bounty Hunter? Or Bat out of Hell at City Center? I've already experienced the shows at New World Stages as well as the fantastic Yiddish Fiddler. Are there any off-broadway plays that will be running Labor Day weekend that would be recommended? |
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| Why do people ask that? | |
| Last Edit: dramedy 03:44 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 03:43 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud - lowwriter 01:50 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| Clearly if the poster wanted off broadway suggestions, it would be asked (hey, I’ve seen it all on broadway, any offbroadway must sees?). I know people hate the broadway only snobbery, but I find the “you should consider offbroadway as new an interesting” is just as snobbish. I get this in San Fran. I state I was in ny and list a few of the shows a local might have heard of. I get pissed when the response is “do you see local theater?” And then I state a few shows and get a blank stare. Then I ask what they saw locally and it is NOTHING. So their local statement was an attempt to shame me in only seeing ny and not a true interest in the topic. I usually end the conversation or move on to movies or books—usually with the same results. No wonder I’m single. |
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| Because... | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 05:24 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: Why do people ask that? - dramedy 03:43 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| ... not everyone who comes to NY is familiar with the off-Broadway scene, which rarely advertises beyond the Metro NY area. Hell, it's not even that unusual for people in the tri-state area to complain about having missed a chance to get tickets for hot OB shows (The Lehman Trilogy and Fleabag spring to mind). | |
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| I did enjoy pretty woman | |
| Last Edit: dramedy 09:50 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 09:49 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud - KCforBway 10:34 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| But I doubt it will survive into September. Since I’m not a fan of proud, i would recommend pretty woman if still open especially since you saw everything else. Beetlejuice has been rising at the boxoffice since the Tonys so that will hopefully stay open. I really enjoyed Beetlejuice. Come from away is fantastic. The tour is great. |
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| And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP | |
| Posted by: broadwaybacker 10:33 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: I did enjoy pretty woman - dramedy 09:49 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| As they say in golf, horses for courses. I think the bottom line is that if you enjoy the music of The Temptations, you’ll have a good time at ATP, in spite of any weaknesses the book may have. And the choreography really is good, as Trujillo didn’t copy their steps but reimagined them as they might be performed today (according to him). |
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| re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 10:52 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP - broadwaybacker 10:33 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| I haven't seen the show. I watched what was on the Tonys. Truth is that it's not kind of show, but I do like The Temptations. And I think that people who like The Temptations and like the songs they did might well hate the show. They basically did simple choreographic moves when they performed. What they did in movement did not overshadow the song. At least in the hyperactive stuff shown on the Tonys, it seemed like the songs were barely incidental to what was supposed to be dazzling movement. | |
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| re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP | |
| Posted by: oddone 07:38 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP - AlanScott 10:52 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| I saw the show, and what was on the Tonys did not really represent it well. I agree that the Tony number seemed hyperactive and distracting. That isn't how I remember the show. Not to say I thought the show was good. I thought the book was terrible (with some truly cringe-inducing lines). And the projections were...not my favorite. Very Des McAnuff, and not in a good way. But hyperactive/distracting movement wasn't the problem. I think the music comes through well enough in the show, and probably people who are less critical than me wouldn't care that the projections are largely just names of US cities, shown different ways, over, and over, and over.... | |
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| re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 05:19 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP - oddone 07:38 am EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| It's good to hear it's not all like that. In fact, re-reading the linked article, which I read after the Tonys, I see that Trujillo made a point of it not being all like that (although he still makes it sound like a lot of it is like that). Still, I think it's interesting that you say, "I think the music comes across well enough in the show." I would hope it comes across at least well enough. Anyway, I've never seen Jersey Boys or Beautiful or any of these bio-catalog shows. They just don't interest me. Actually, I think a good show or movie about The Temptations might be more interesting to me than a good show or movie about The Four Seasons (haven't seen the Jersey Boys movie either) or Carole King but it doesn't sound like this is it. And it's not as if I have the money to see very much nowadays. |
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| re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP | |
| Posted by: Ann 12:08 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP - AlanScott 10:52 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| Probably many who like the Temptations but might hate the show are just avoiding the show. By this time, I think those who like cover-band style jukebox musicals know they like them and go when the music is in their nostalgia wheelhouse. This one appears to be slickly produced, so they're probably happy with it. There are a lot of people who appear to like that kind of thing. More power to them. | |
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| re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 12:27 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP - Ann 12:08 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| People who like those shows help keep talented people employed, and that's good. I'm not someone who believes that we'd necessarily be seeing more shows that would be more to my taste if some long-running hits didn't run so long nowadays. Not that we can be sure yet how long this show will run, but it is doing very well, as broadwaybacker mentioned, and I would imagine it may well run for at least three or four more years (and quite possibly a good deal longer than that). | |
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| re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP | |
| Posted by: Ann 12:35 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP - AlanScott 12:27 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| Agreed (even if I know I'd hate it, and I think it's not a real musical). | |
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| re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP | |
| Posted by: broadwaybacker 11:58 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP - AlanScott 10:52 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| It's a bit unfair in my opinion for you to speculate that people who like the Temps and their music might hate the show, not having seen it. Perhaps that's true, but the show is selling out every seat, the reviews were very good if not excellent for the most part and word of mouth, at least based on what you see and hear while leaving the theater seems to be very strong. So since you say that you like The Tempations, give it a chance and maybe you'll really enjoy yourself. And I doubt you'll conclude that the songs were "barely incidental ". | |
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| re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 12:12 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP - broadwaybacker 11:58 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| Well, to defend myself (and you did not misstate what I wrote), I will just emphasize I said "might well hate the show," rather than "would." Again, you didn't say that I said they would hate the show, but I just want to emphasize what I wrote. So I don't think it really was unfair. If I had said that people who like The Temptations would hate the show, that would be very presumptuous on my part, and I wouldn't write that. I'm just not interested in these bio kinds of catalog shows. And if I were more interested, the hyperactive choreography seen on the Tonys would still be a turnoff for me. Perhaps it's not representative of what's generally in the show choreographically, but there was a quote I read from Trujillo that did make it sound like he generally made the choreography a lot busier than what The Temptations did. I know a lot of people like that sort of thing. I don't. |
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| I’ve seen temptations on tour | |
| Last Edit: dramedy 10:47 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 10:40 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: And I thought Pretty Woman was a bore but thoroughly enjoyed ATP - broadwaybacker 10:33 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| I like some of their songs. I just felt proud was a bore and not very creative just having a narrator telling the story. And if someone is posting about other shows compared to proud, I tend to think KC isn’t a huge fan of temptations and just likes a few songs like me. Pretty woman also has some good songs, but I just liked the show overall and enjoyed it. It’s not great art and it did well in the fall and has slowly lost its audience during the spring. It will do well on tour. |
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| re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud | |
| Posted by: oddone 07:36 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud - KCforBway 10:34 pm EDT 06/25/19 | |
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| If you are stuck on Broadway, Sea Wall / A Life will be running. | |
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| re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud | |
| Posted by: KCforBway 10:18 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
| In reply to: re: KCforBrdwy. So you’re seeing ain’t to proud - oddone 07:36 am EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| Thanks for the recommendation - I did see these two one-acts on my last trip to the city in March. While I certainly admired the plays when seeing them at the Public, I surely could not subject myself to the subject matter yet again (my real life this past year mirrored one of the stories just a little too much). | |
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