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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 05:16 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - JereNYC 04:02 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Also Doris Day was still a big name, although around that time she had to commit to a tv series that her recently-deceased husband/manager had saddled her with along with debts. | |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: Ned3301 06:30 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - PlayWiz 05:16 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Doris Day's ID was that of the absolutely honest and direct woman who was constantly amazed by the unscrupulous nature of the men she got involved with. It was part of the fun that the audience could see instantly what a seductive phony Rock Hudson (for example) could be while it took Day much of the film before she caught on. But Dolly is a finagler, a manipulator. It would have been impossible for the public to accept Day in a role like that, and it seems very unlikely that she was ever seriously considered for Hello, Dolly! Casting her would have thrown the story off its pins. |
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| Doris Day's ID was that of the absolutely honest and direct woman... | |
| Posted by: Dawson 09:01 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - Ned3301 06:30 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Hmm. Love Me or Leave Me. Julie, Midnight Lace. | |
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| Doris Day -- Versatile, Underrated Actress | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 09:35 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 09:34 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: Doris Day's ID was that of the absolutely honest and direct woman... - Dawson 09:01 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Also, Storm Warning. In one of her most popular films Calamity Jane, Day drives a stagecoach, battles the Sioux, hangs out in a saloon, is referred to as a teller of tall tales -- and pulls it all off beautifully. BTW she introduces "Secret Love" and knocks it out of the park. | |
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| CALAMITY JANE | |
| Posted by: Dawson 09:48 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: Doris Day -- Versatile, Underrated Actress - BroadwayTonyJ 09:34 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| As you probably know. Calamity Jane was Warner Brother' consolation prize because they would not loan her to MGM for Annie Get Your Gun. | |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Last Edit: PlayWiz 06:51 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 06:47 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - Ned3301 06:30 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Doris was offered the role of Mrs. Robinson around that time in "The Graduate". Some folks thought she might like to change up the kinds of roles she could play, since her film career pretty much ended in 1968 with "With Six You Get Eggroll" before she went into that tv show commitment. After that she seemed to lose interest in her acting career. But Mrs. Robinson would have been much more a drastic change to her image than Dolly. Of course, more in line with her image, she would have made a terrific Maria in "The Sound of Music", much as I love Julie Andrews in the role. I've even seen a paperback where the drawing of Maria with the children looks very much like Doris Day! | |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: Ned3301 10:58 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - PlayWiz 06:47 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| They wanted Day for Mrs. Robinson precisely because it went against the image she had established, the idea being to show how treacherous even mid-American suburban life can be. And Day would surely have been superb in the part. But Dolly is, I think, one of those bridges too far. Day as an adulterous termagant--she gets quite vicious when Benjamin interrupts the wedding--would have been a fascinating shock. Dolly would have found her just wrong for the character, neither typical Day nor the opposite. Dolly really is a kind of Topsy, and I just don't associate Day with that kind of mischief-making. I can see her Mrs. Robinson. I can't see her Dolly. For that matter, I think she was too American for Maria--but then so was Mary Martin, and that worked out fine. |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 11:38 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - Ned3301 10:58 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| I think Day as Ruth Etting showed that she could play a calculating, manipulative person who will use someone, even marry him, to further her career, even though she later realizes the pitfalls of this kind of plan of action. While Ruth Etting had her singing talent, Dolly has humor to pad some of her more aggressive machinations. Day might not have been perfect casting, but so many different women have played her over the years. The wonderful writing of her character gives some wide lattitude, and the humor of Dolly really makes her seem real, palatable and a fun person to spend a few hours with. | |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Last Edit: BroadwayTonyJ 11:15 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
| Posted by: BroadwayTonyJ 11:14 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - PlayWiz 11:38 pm EDT 06/27/19 | |
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| Exactly. Also, in films like It Happened to Jane and Pillow Talk, Day played smart, tough, and (at times) ruthless businesswomen, who could outfox a scumbag competitor (Ernie Kovacs) and exact a little revenge on a deceptive (but likeable) womanizer (Rock Hudson). She actually was considered for Dolly, but I don't know how seriously given the juggernaut for Streisand. Day would have been a fine Dolly Gallagher Levi. She was the right age, had the comic and musical chops, and her real life circumstances in the late 60's were quite similar to Dolly's. She would have brought the poignance to the role that was lacking in Streisand's portrayal. If she had been cast in the film, her frequent co-star Tony Randall would have been a perfect Horace. I think audiences would have responded enthusiastically to see Day as Dolly setting her cap for the guy she always rejected romantically in their previous pairings. |
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| re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** | |
| Last Edit: PlayWiz 11:27 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 11:26 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: re: ALL of Hollywood's best movie musicals were made with ***movie stars.*** - BroadwayTonyJ 11:14 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
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| I love the idea of Tony Randall as Horace! He might even have have transformed in a more believable way than the typical Horace to have some romantic sparks with his Dolly, which he exhibited when Randall played the romantic, but still comic lead opposite Debbie Reynolds in "The Mating Game". | |
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