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| Posted by: AlanScott 05:56 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: re: "Bye Bye Birdie" overture - Chazwaza 06:59 pm EDT 06/26/19 | |
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| It's easy to get confused about the overture in ALNM because some of the revivals, including the RNT production and the Broadway revival, have not done what was done originally. Both cut back on it to varying degrees, with the RNT production cutting it down to almost nothing and the Broadway revival breaking it up and . . . whatever it did. And also because there have been only two complete recordings of it (unless I've missed something), and neither used the original orchestration, and one of those recordings has never been issued on CD. And on the other, the soprano doesn't take the high note. | |
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| re: "Bye Bye Birdie" overture | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 06:54 pm EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: re: "Bye Bye Birdie" overture - AlanScott 05:56 am EDT 06/28/19 | |
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| So which recording uses the full overtures, even if not with the original orchestration? But why would they not use the orchestration used in their production? And is the overture performed in the 1990 NYCO production that was broadcast the full overture, and is it sung properly? |
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| re: "Bye Bye Birdie" overture | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 07:51 pm EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: re: "Bye Bye Birdie" overture - Chazwaza 06:54 pm EDT 06/28/19 | |
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| The only two recordings I know of the complete overture are these: 1. On the LP A Little Sondheim Music, performed by a group called the Los Angeles Vocal Arts Ensemble, issued on EMI Angel in 1984. The singers are accompanied by two pianos throughout the LP. 2. On the TER/JAY studio-cast recording, which used the orchestration employed in the 1989 Chichester Festival production, which moved to London, where it ran for four-and-a-half months. John Owen Edwards, one of JAY's regular conductors, conducted that production and created the orchestration (based closely on Tunick's), which was for 12 players. A percussionist was added for the recording. There is sometimes a misconception that the JAY recording is a cast recording of that Chichester-London production but it's really not, as the cast on the recording features only six or seven people who were in that production, depending on how you count them (the quintet, the Charlotte, and the Carl-Magnus, who switched to Fredrik for the recording). Yes, the complete original overture with the full orchestration was in that City Opera production. |
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| Didn't the ALNM Overture... | |
| Posted by: Dawson 08:21 pm EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: re: "Bye Bye Birdie" overture - AlanScott 07:51 pm EDT 06/28/19 | |
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| ...contain bits and pieces written for another Sondheim musical that was ultimately discarded? | |
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| re: Didn't the ALNM Overture... | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 08:46 pm EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: Didn't the ALNM Overture... - Dawson 08:21 pm EDT 06/28/19 | |
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| Not to my knowledge. For a time, Sondheim planned to include a waltz that he'd written back in the 1950s, when they were hoping to get the rights to Ring Round the Moon (which they again tried to do after Follies). That was to have been where "Night Waltz" ultimately was. A bit of the "trio" (as the term is sometimes used in classical sense as the middle, contrasting section of a dance such as a minuet) of that waltz ended up in the trio section of the "Night Waltz." Perhaps you're thinking of that? Anyway, all the music in the overture is from the show. | |
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| Yes, RING ROUND THE MOON was what I was thinking of. Thanks! n/m | |
| Posted by: Dawson 08:52 pm EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Didn't the ALNM Overture... - AlanScott 08:46 pm EDT 06/28/19 | |
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| re: Yes, RING ROUND THE MOON was what I was thinking of. Thanks! n/m | |
| Posted by: AlanScott 09:03 pm EDT 06/28/19 | |
| In reply to: Yes, RING ROUND THE MOON was what I was thinking of. Thanks! n/m - Dawson 08:52 pm EDT 06/28/19 | |
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| Really, just a few bars from the trio of that "French waltz" ended up in the "Night Waltz." | |
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