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| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 11:22 pm EDT 08/23/19 | |
| In reply to: re: despicable? - larry13 09:46 pm EDT 08/23/19 | |
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| "The 'big deal' is that her comments already did damage. Not everyone who saw it or heard about it is necessarily going to find out--or care--about the apology." Yes. And also, her apology was insincere -- not something she really feels, but something she felt it necessary to say in order to try to save her job. Her apology was, "From ballet to anything one wants to explore in life, I say GO FOR IT. I fully believe we should all be free to pursue our passions." But if she truly believed that there's nothing wrong or funny or "gay" about a boy taking ballet class, she wouldn't have made that face, laughed, and then followed up with that ridiculous comment in the first place. So, her "apology" is a lie. |
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| re: despicable? | |
| Posted by: Sam890 02:32 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
| In reply to: re: despicable? - Michael_Portantiere 11:22 pm EDT 08/23/19 | |
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| I agree with you Michael, I get tired of people (often politicians) saying stupid, hurtful things and then, when caught out, offering an insincere apology expecting us all to forgive and forget. It seems many (including many on this board) think a kneejerk apology completely absolves a person from wrongdoing. I don't agree. If someone punches you in the face then says sorry, your face is still going to hurt. | |
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| re: despicable? | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 12:48 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
| In reply to: re: despicable? - Michael_Portantiere 11:22 pm EDT 08/23/19 | |
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| A lie? Come on, Michael, you're presuming a lot here. I thought the apology was perfectly acceptable. | |
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| re: despicable? | |
| Posted by: lowwriter 08:14 pm EDT 08/24/19 | |
| In reply to: re: despicable? - KingSpeed 12:48 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
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| She apologized on Instagram which isn’t enough. She should apologize on the TV show. | |
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| you have to be a pretty sick person to attack a kid, KingSpeed | |
| Posted by: manchurch03104 10:38 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
| In reply to: re: despicable? - KingSpeed 12:48 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
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| why would a media professional attack a kid in the first place? let's start there. | |
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| re: you have to be a pretty sick person to attack a kid, KingSpeed | |
| Posted by: waterfall 11:02 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
| In reply to: you have to be a pretty sick person to attack a kid, KingSpeed - manchurch03104 10:38 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
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| This is what I've been saying. It really doesn't matter why they were laughing at the young prince - it's enough that adults were laughing at a child. Who does that? Kids should be off-limits. |
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| re: despicable? | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 10:02 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
| In reply to: re: despicable? - KingSpeed 12:48 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
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| KingSpeed, if someone were being interviewed about gender roles and I said, "I really don't feel it's appropriate for women to direct Broadway shows or run companies, because they don't have the leadership for it," and then I "apologized" by saying, "Sorry, my remark was insensitive, I don't really feel that way. As far as I'm concerned, whatever you want to do, GO FOR IT" -- would you accept that apology? Of course not. The only sincere apology in that case would be, "I am sorry that stereotypical gender roles have been so ingrained in me that I made a terribly offensive remark. I will work to re-wire my brain and move beyond my conception of stereotypical roles." Do you see the difference? People shouldn't apologize by lying about their true feelings. Rather, they should admit that some of their feelings and beliefs are wrong and hurtful and ignorant, and they should apologize for THAT and then work to overcome those feelings. That's the kind of apology I, for one, would accept. |
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| Totally agree on this, KingSpeed. n/m | |
| Posted by: reed23 04:37 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
| In reply to: re: despicable? - KingSpeed 12:48 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
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| re: Totally agree on this, KingSpeed. n/m | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 10:06 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
| In reply to: Totally agree on this, KingSpeed. n/m - reed23 04:37 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
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| If you "totally agree" with KingSpeed on this, please read my post above and then please explain to me what's wrong with my logic. I'm honestly interested in what you have to say about that. | |
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