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| spoken from the perspective of manifest privilege | |
| Posted by: ryhog 11:21 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
| In reply to: But that doesn't feed the Outrage Narrative, so few noticed, and the rest churlishly reject the apology. n/m - reed23 04:41 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
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| that's the problem with your drive-by postings in this thread. If you are not outraged, that, I guess, is your prerogative. If you don't get it, pat yourself on the back. But there are children whose lives are scarred by things like this. There are children who kill themselves because of things like this. There are children who get killed by things like that. Want to call it an outrage narrative and try to denigrate people with a conscience? I can't stop you but I can ask you to think about it. | |
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| Years ago, Dr. Phil said something comparable. | |
| Posted by: Delvino 07:52 am EDT 08/25/19 | |
| In reply to: spoken from the perspective of manifest privilege - ryhog 11:21 am EDT 08/24/19 | |
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| Only 15 years ago Dr. Phil drew audience applause instructing parents to take dolls away from a young male child who adored them. The segment burned a hole in my brain because as a self-appointed arbiter of gender expectations, McGraw claimed to be a staunch advocate of responsible parenting: curb those tendencies quickly or your male child will become an adult you don't recognize and society will never accept. It's no stretch to say the giggly, woefully self-absorbed Spencer voiced the same concern, albeit glibly, capriciously. Why, *real* boys don't dance willingly, didn't you hear? Wink wink, ha ha ha! The offense taken was swift and fully earned, and now some want to tone police those of us who were offended. I won't accept it. |
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| re: Years ago, Dr. Phil said something comparable. | |
| Posted by: ryhog 10:35 am EDT 08/25/19 | |
| In reply to: Years ago, Dr. Phil said something comparable. - Delvino 07:52 am EDT 08/25/19 | |
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| There is a surprising (to me) dynamic at play here, centering on how and to what extent we have evolved. On the one hand, we HAVE evolved, in the sense that, today, I do not think any responsible authority would seriously make the statement you attribute to Dr. Phil above. But on the other hand, we still sustain a culture in which what Spencer and her colleagues did at a major media outlet does not automatically blow a fuse. We are not talking about the learned attitudes of individual parents here; we are talking about the conveyed attitudes of powerful media that taints those parents and their children. These are attitudes that lead some kids to kill themselves, and others to live their lives as square pegs in round holes. Many of us have witnessed the evolution, and are not eager to see the genie forced back in the bottle for the current generation of kids. (And for anyone who thinks this is much ado about nothing, watch some of the Broadway dancers' youtube vids in reaction to what happened and get back to me. |
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| re: Years ago, Dr. Phil said something comparable. | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 10:51 am EDT 08/25/19 | |
| In reply to: re: Years ago, Dr. Phil said something comparable. - ryhog 10:35 am EDT 08/25/19 | |
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| "On the one hand, we HAVE evolved, in the sense that, today, I do not think any responsible authority would seriously make the statement you attribute to Dr. Phil above. But on the other hand, we still sustain a culture in which what Spencer and her colleagues did at a major media outlet does not automatically blow a fuse. We are not talking about the learned attitudes of individual parents here; we are talking about the conveyed attitudes of powerful media that taints those parents and their children. These are attitudes that lead some kids to kill themselves, and others to live their lives as square pegs in round holes. Many of us have witnessed the evolution, and are not eager to see the genie forced back in the bottle for the current generation of kids. (And for anyone who thinks this is much ado about nothing, watch some of the Broadway dancers' youtube vids in reaction to what happened and get back to me." Very cogently and thoughtfully worded. Thank you. |
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