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re: Within the context of this particular current production
Posted by: mikem 05:05 pm EDT 08/28/19
In reply to: re: Within the context of this particular current production - Michael_Portantiere 03:56 pm EDT 08/28/19

I did not realize that the "you know what you have to do" line is an addition. IMO, that line completely changes the context of the shooting, making it seem like Jud has some complicity in his death. The line makes it seem almost like a mercy killing.
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re: Within the context of this particular current production
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 05:30 pm EDT 08/28/19
In reply to: re: Within the context of this particular current production - mikem 05:05 pm EDT 08/28/19

"I did not realize that the 'you know what you have to do' line is an addition."

Probably because the production keeps insisting that there are NO textual changes to the show, which is not true.

Also, yes, that line completely changes the context of the shooting -- but further than that, the shooting is not a shooting in the original script, it's a knifing. And it's not even a knifing of one person by another. What happens, again, is that Jud falls on his own knife during a fight with Curly in which Jud is the only one of the two with a knife.
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re: Within the context of this particular current production
Posted by: mikem 11:09 pm EDT 08/28/19
In reply to: re: Within the context of this particular current production - Michael_Portantiere 05:30 pm EDT 08/28/19

Has Daniel Fish ever said anything about why it's a gun and not a knife? I guess he couldn't have the blood shooting onto Curly and Laurey if it were a knife. And the displayed rifles on the walls of the theater are echoed by the use of a gun.

I agree it's odd that they keep saying that there are no textual changes when one of the most important segments of the show is changed in a meaningful way.
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What Fish told Deadline.com about the shooting in 'Oklahoma!' (spoiler)
Last Edit: WaymanWong 04:53 pm EDT 08/29/19
Posted by: WaymanWong 04:51 pm EDT 08/29/19
In reply to: re: Within the context of this particular current production - mikem 11:09 pm EDT 08/28/19

Fish: When we did it at Bard in 2015, Ted [Chapin] felt it seemed a little bit too much like cold-blooded murder, and that was not how I intended it to be, and it’s not what I thought it was. I thought it was more a kind of almost-suicide in which everybody is made complicit. So we worked very hard at St. Ann’s to make a few adjustments to make it clear that Jud had agency in that action. Ultimately he’s not the person who pulls the trigger. In this version, Jud hands him the gun. Jud cocks the gun. Those two gestures were not there in 2015. Jud brought the gun, but he didn’t hand it to him, and he didn’t cock it, and it didn’t take quite as long.
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