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| Lehman trilogy question includes spoiler | |
| Last Edit: dramedy 02:13 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 02:09 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| Why do they have a dozen actors on stage at the end? Seems like a huge cost for actors to sit in the wings for 3.5 hours. Are they stage hands and not actors? I assume broadway would use less. As for the play, really enjoyed it. If this sets the bar for the Tonys it could be a very competitive category this season. The theater didn’t have printouts for this show. I guess I’ll be garbage picking around nederlander theater this spring for freshly tossed playbills. |
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| re: Lehman trilogy question includes spoiler | |
| Posted by: PurpleMoney 07:11 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: Lehman trilogy question includes spoiler - dramedy 02:09 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| When I saw the show in London there were only three actors on stage. The show was stopped in the first part due to a problem with the set. The set completely failed during the end of the second half of the show, but instead of delaying the performance to fix it the three continued. Obviously, we missed the effect you're referring too. |
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| Yes, MASSIVE spoiler in the first sentence! Avoid if planning to see! | |
| Last Edit: MockingbirdGirl 06:27 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 06:21 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: Lehman trilogy question includes spoiler - dramedy 02:09 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| The supernumeraries are there to recreate the famous photo of the Lehman bankruptcy being announced. | |
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| re: Yes, MASSIVE spoiler in the first sentence! Avoid if planning to see! | |
| Posted by: whereismikeyfl 10:30 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: Yes, MASSIVE spoiler in the first sentence! Avoid if planning to see! - MockingbirdGirl 06:21 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| Not exactly a massive spoiler. The image is strong, but not exactly a shocking coup de theatre. It is at best a minor spoiler. And if you take spoiler to mean revealing information about plot or character, it is not a spoiler at all. |
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| Massive? It’s not like revealing who is luke’s Father | |
| Posted by: dramedy 10:04 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: Yes, MASSIVE spoiler in the first sentence! Avoid if planning to see! - MockingbirdGirl 06:21 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| Thanks for the answer. It makes sense now. Not sure it is worth $30k in cast salary (just a guess). | |
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| Whatevs | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 04:45 pm EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: Massive? It’s not like revealing who is luke’s Father - dramedy 10:04 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| It's something that is best appreciated when unexpected, and not blurted out and spoiled beforehand. | |
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| re: Yes, MASSIVE spoiler in the first sentence! Avoid if planning to see! | |
| Last Edit: singleticket 09:25 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| Posted by: singleticket 09:25 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: Yes, MASSIVE spoiler in the first sentence! Avoid if planning to see! - MockingbirdGirl 06:21 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| Thanks MockingbirdGirl, that makes sense and I did not realize that when I saw it at The Armory. For me, the whole thing felt like a small show, though epic in content, got poured into a glossy deluxe edition. The packaging overwhelmed the content but the packaging is remarkable in direction, performance and design and will no doubt win awards. |
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| The playwright re the cast size (SPOILER). | |
| Posted by: kieran 03:17 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: Lehman trilogy question includes spoiler - dramedy 02:09 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| Maybe the actors who were "shed" during the first week (if casting had been done at this point) were kept on for the finale! | |
| Link | "The Lehman Trilogy" |
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| re: The playwright re the cast size (SPOILER). | |
| Posted by: mikem 08:41 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: The playwright re the cast size (SPOILER). - kieran 03:17 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| Others may already know the history of this play, but I did not know it in detail until reading Kieran's link and some other articles online. The Italian original version of the play had a much larger cast - at least 13 people, including several women. The play was also five hours long. Ben Power, who adapted the play to its current version, is the deputy artistic director of the UK's National Theatre. He did not do the translation; someone else did. It sounds like the original Italian version also had the idea of the actors essentially narrating in the third person, with minimal dialogue. Although this is direction and not writing, it also seems that the Italian premiere also had a fairly minimal set and the actors dressed in formal, mostly black, 19th-century dress. The glass cube was not present. (The play actually premiered in Paris prior to its Italian premiere in Milan, I believe with a different director. I was not able to find much information about that version.) I am curious what the final image was in the Milan version. The actors at curtain call are wearing the 19th-century dress, so it was presumably quite different. |
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| re: The playwright re the cast size (SPOILER). | |
| Posted by: mikem 10:37 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: re: The playwright re the cast size (SPOILER). - mikem 08:41 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| I found a cast list and program online from Milan. There were 12 actors, including 2 women. Interestingly, the Italian title is "Lehman Trilogy." No "The," but Trilogy is the English word, not the Italian word, "Trilogia." The program has a 2-page explanation of American history, since Italians may not know the details. Apparently, some English and Yiddish words were thrown in, since there is also a glossary. One of the sections of the history is about Martin Luther King, who is also in the glossary. I don't remember him being mentioned in the play, but it may have been part that was edited out. |
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| (SPOILER). | |
| Last Edit: dramedy 11:32 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 11:30 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: re: The playwright re the cast size (SPOILER). - mikem 10:37 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| mLK is quoted in the third act. I think it was more used to show time lapse than actual ah-ha moment. Because I thought—oh we are now in late 60s or 70s | |
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| re: (SPOILER). | |
| Posted by: mikem 02:14 pm EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: (SPOILER). - dramedy 11:30 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| dramedy, thanks. I had forgotten about that portion. | |
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| re: oh shoot, didn't expect the spoiler in your first ten words!!! | |
| Posted by: Guillaume 02:26 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: Lehman trilogy question includes spoiler - dramedy 02:09 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| dang. Sure spoiled me. | |
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| I said question with spoiler | |
| Posted by: dramedy 10:02 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: re: oh shoot, didn't expect the spoiler in your first ten words!!! - Guillaume 02:26 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| I can’t do more than that. Hey, guillaume, don’t read. | |
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| re: oh shoot, didn't expect the spoiler in your first ten words!!! | |
| Last Edit: mikem 03:00 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| Posted by: mikem 02:55 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: re: oh shoot, didn't expect the spoiler in your first ten words!!! - Guillaume 02:26 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| I am curious how the end crowd will be handled on Broadway. In London, I don't believe that there is a union minimum in the West End the same way that there is for Broadway. Several years ago, I saw a show there that was a jukebox musical of the songs of Take That (the group that Gary Barlow, the composer of Finding Neverland, is part of). They had a large children's chorus for just one song, but apparently, they can pay minimally there. When Matilda was playing, it was revealed that each of the London Matildas was only getting paid around $300 - $350 a week. I don't know what the Broadway rule is for roles that have no speaking. I don't know if they have to pay each of the end performers the weekly minimum. I know that stagehands can be asked to wear costumes (and get paid for doing so), but I don't know if they can have stagehands perform who are not actually doing stagehand work while they are on stage -- I would guess Actors Equity would frown upon that unless this type of role is not considered within their purview anyway. I believe (but could be wrong) that understudies can appear on stage in this type of role without receiving extra pay because they are getting paid the Broadway minimum already. But there probably wouldn't be more than 3 understudies (and possibly only two). dramedy, did you see this in the movie theater? |
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| yes, last night in a movie theater | |
| Posted by: dramedy 10:00 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
| In reply to: re: oh shoot, didn't expect the spoiler in your first ten words!!! - mikem 02:55 am EDT 09/05/19 | |
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| I assume the three acts are to give the actors a break. I don’t usually like long plays like ferryman, but this really held my interest with a lot of details. | |
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