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| re: i assume, like me, everyone is still seething that CONTACT took the Tony that THE WILD PARTY should have won ;) | |
| Last Edit: Chazwaza 03:21 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 03:15 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
| In reply to: re: i assume, like me, everyone is still seething that CONTACT took the Tony that AIDA should have won ;) (nm - dramedy 03:07 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
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| I don't think much of Aida as a musical... I would definitely not have given Best Musical to Contact for Best Musical in a year when there were several good and very compelling original new challenging and/or popular musicals (including Aida), and I am surprised Aida didn't take win it... but I would EASILY have given it to The Wild Party that year, which I consider one of the greater achievements in modern musical theater, and was an incredible production with a mind-blowing cast of legends and rising stars filling out an exceptional and very-utilized ensemble. | |
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| re: i assume, like me, everyone is still seething that CONTACT took the Tony that THE WILD PARTY should have won ;) | |
| Posted by: creampuff 11:06 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
| In reply to: re: i assume, like me, everyone is still seething that CONTACT took the Tony that THE WILD PARTY should have won ;) - Chazwaza 03:15 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
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| Well said!! | |
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| Aida wasn’t nominated for best musical | |
| Last Edit: dramedy 03:34 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 03:27 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
| In reply to: re: i assume, like me, everyone is still seething that CONTACT took the Tony that THE WILD PARTY should have won ;) - Chazwaza 03:15 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
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| Contact, swing!, wild party and James Joyce’s the dead were the four nominees. I think one thing against wild party was Lippa’s version had opened earlier in the season off-broadway so laChiusa version wasn’t that novel on broadway plus it lags a bit in the second act due to the party being over. But People Like Us was the best song of the season in my opinion. I’d love to see a tony award for best song like the oscars that separate movie score and song. I don’t think it would necessarily be the same winner for the same show each season—especially if the one or two new songs added to a juke box would qualify for song category and not score (not meeting 50% requirement). |
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| re: Aida wasn’t nominated for best musical | |
| Last Edit: Chazwaza 03:57 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 03:52 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
| In reply to: Aida wasn’t nominated for best musical - dramedy 03:27 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
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| I'm sure you'll not be shocked that I'm going to argue about act two. I agree "People Like Us" was the best of the show and of the season, but act two (i assume you mean the part two after midnight, i.e from "After Midnight Dies" and on, as there was no intermission) has other incredible developments and pay offs and songs, like: When the Golden Boy Went Down More Love Ain't Nothin How Many Women in the World When It Ends (wowza!) This Is What It Is and that ending! But either way that isn't even the second half, the majority of the show happens before midnight, and from the opening notes through the entire party section (which ends with "People Like Us") is absolutely thrilling to me - live in the theater and on the album. And I'd say the tone and action in the show and score deflates exactly the right way, the way the party does after it climaxes. I think it's written this way on purpose, and brilliantly. But I'm clearly a bigger fan of the show and of the post-party-climax songs than you. |
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| re: Aida wasn’t nominated for best musical | |
| Posted by: EvFoDr 05:23 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Aida wasn’t nominated for best musical - Chazwaza 03:52 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
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| I also must lovingly remind you both that The Wild Party on Broadway did not have an act two. The show was performed without an intermission. :-) I understand you probably mean "later in the show", or something to the effect. I believe it was George C. Wolfe who said "parties don't have intermissions", and so the show didn't. I remember having excellent seats third row center. Early in the show Toni Collette threw a powder puff into the audience and I caught it! I still have it too. LOL. And People Like Us WAS thrilling, especially being so close. They came all the way downstage and a sort of fire escape railing rose up through the stage floor, which they leaned on during the song. I think another reason the song is so potent is that it lands as a big complete number amid a lot of snippets and partial songs that come before it (this is probably on purpose), and the fire escape setting is a refreshing visual change from the same party set we'd seen all night up until then. Having seen Contact, Swing, and The Wild Party (my tix to The Dead were refunded when it shuttered), I would have hands down given Best Musical to Contact. I don't want to get into the whole debate, but they did the best they could to categorize a show that didn't fit the traditional definition of a musical. I thought Contact was the most satisfying and fully realized experience of all of them. I didn't think much of Aida at all. I don't have strong feelings about Headley vs. Collette. I thought they both served their shows well but neither inspired a passionate feeling about who should win the Tony. |
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| contact was “a dance play” off broadway | |
| Posted by: dramedy 07:27 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Aida wasn’t nominated for best musical - EvFoDr 05:23 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
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| And a musical on broadway. I do think it is a dance play without orch and singing. Even lady day at Emerson grill was a play with singer and small band! | |
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| re: Aida wasn’t nominated for best musical | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 05:28 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Aida wasn’t nominated for best musical - EvFoDr 05:23 pm EST 02/14/20 | |
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| I must lovingly, in turn, point out that I noted the lack of intermission in my first paragraph, and then went on to define the divisions of the show's sections in the last paragraph. :) And I agree with Wolfe, and don't think this show should ever be done with an intermission. |
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