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| Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire | |
| Posted by: Kerick 12:34 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
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| Does anyone want to see this?? If so, why (please)? | |
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| re: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 12:26 am EST 02/16/20 | |
| In reply to: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire - Kerick 12:34 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
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| How would it help you to know why other people want to see this? And anyway, can't you pretty easily think of some reasons why other people would want to see it on your own, without other people telling you? Why not make your own decision? | |
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| Two Words... | |
| Posted by: lastcall 06:36 pm EST 02/18/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire - Michael_Portantiere 12:26 am EST 02/16/20 | |
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| Ron McClure ! | |
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| why not make your own decision | |
| Posted by: dramedy 01:19 pm EST 02/16/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire - Michael_Portantiere 12:26 am EST 02/16/20 | |
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| Is up there with “buy a ticket and find out for yourself.” People seek opinions about many things before buying. Look at amazon and Best Buy and TripAdvisor and yelp. Full of comments to help a Buyer decide before spending money. For this show, clearly someone posted that saw it in Seattle and really liked it. It might have been useful for me if someone said the two songs presented really don’t represent the score overall (which I suspect is not the case). Frankly, the question could have been what musicals are you looking forward to this spring? I’d have to say that I’m very perplexed over the selection for my May trip. I did buy partial view for jagged pill because it was $49 and I think a tony contender and a show that I probably won’t be in love with leaving the theater. But lll use a precious slot for a great priced orch seat. I think the only one I’m intrigued by is flying over sunset. But that is so unknown where all the other shows had other productions to build a decision on. |
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| re: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire | |
| Posted by: tealady 06:36 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
| In reply to: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire - Kerick 12:34 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
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| the show was a hit in Seattle and sold out the last 3 weeks of it run. I was able to get a ticket to see it. its pour joy to watch and Rob was wonderful. the show is funny, and has some really good LOL, Jerry Zack know has to make you Laugh one min, and cry the next. a master at farce. I said yes to the show... and LOVED it, buy the ticket now. |
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| re: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire | |
| Posted by: FortPeck 04:21 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
| In reply to: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire - Kerick 12:34 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
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| I had the movie on in my hotel on my visit to NYC last week, and I was struck by how creepy the entire premise is: the woman's ex-husband is basically living in her house and taking care of her kids based on false pretenses. Yes, I get it - their divorce is not acrimonious, he is crazy about his kids, it's all well-intentioned, he's charming and has a good heart, Pierce Brosnan is secretly the real jerk. But still. The deception, played for laughs, really struck me this time around as creepy. YMMV, but how a show engineers around that without the charm of Robin Williams and Sally Field, and the seductions of high-net-worth San Francisco.....I am not sure. | |
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| re: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire | |
| Posted by: kess0078 08:30 am EST 02/16/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire - FortPeck 04:21 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
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| Have you seen the whole thing? Sure, the premise is “creepy,” as you say. But, (SPOILERS AHEAD) pardon my language, the sh*t DOES hit the fan - he doesn’t get away with it. He gets found out by the kids first, and soon after his ex as well, and it isn’t pretty. (Sally Field’s now infamous line reading of “The whole time!!?? The whole time???? The whole time.” is a bit of a cultural touchstone for people my age who grew up watching this film.) He faces repercussions for choosing to deceive his family. Plenty of brilliant comedies have their characters making ethically questionable decisions, and this one actually has some comeuppance. I think if the stage show leans a little harder into that arc of the second half of the story - the reveal and its aftermath, it works just fine. |
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| re: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire | |
| Posted by: theaterbear 01:04 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
| In reply to: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire - Kerick 12:34 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
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| I really enjoyed the original film - but without Robin Williams I don't know how successful the film would have been - I also think the timing of coming into NY so soon after Tootsie flopped is very ill advised. | |
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| re: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire | |
| Posted by: Indavidzopinion 04:32 pm EST 02/16/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire - theaterbear 01:04 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
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| I'm glad you brought up Tootsie. Seeing Santino Fontana work so hard in that rickety vehicle was heart-breaking, particularly after he was so brilliant in the Encores God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater. | |
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| For me, the drawback is Rob McClure | |
| Posted by: aleck 08:30 am EST 02/16/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire - theaterbear 01:04 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
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| No one works harder than Rob McClure. I've met him and no one is sweeter and sincerely gracious. But I put him in the category of everything-is-perfect and everything-is-boring along with Noah Racey, Andy Karl and Santino Fontana. Having seen McClure in everything he's done on Broadway and while he seems to check every box, they were all boring performances, except for portions of Chaplin. I don't see him carrying this show to exciting heights. Maybe Norbert Leo Butz could bring the right level of edgy comedic energy to the role (like Alex Brightman does to save Beetlejuice), but I can't imagine that McClure is capable. |
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| re: For me, the drawback is Rob McClure | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 04:58 pm EST 02/20/20 | |
| In reply to: For me, the drawback is Rob McClure - aleck 08:30 am EST 02/16/20 | |
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| "No one works harder than Rob McClure. I've met him and no one is sweeter and sincerely gracious. But I put him in the category of everything-is-perfect and everything-is-boring along with Noah Racey, Andy Karl and Santino Fontana." Of course you're entitled to that opinion, but I hope you realize how extremely subjective it is, especially when you make such a huge generalization and use such an amorphous word as "boring." I, for one, consider ALL of the actors you mentioned here to be among the most talented, and least boring, in the business. And if you feel that neither Rob McClure nor Santino Fontana have brought "edgy comedic energy" to some of their past roles, I would say that either (1) you didn't see WHERE'S CHARLEY? or TOOTSIE, or (2) I completely disagree with you. |
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| re: For me, the drawback is Rob McClure | |
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| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 03:10 pm EST 02/21/20 | |
| In reply to: re: For me, the drawback is Rob McClure - Michael_Portantiere 04:58 pm EST 02/20/20 | |
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| Fontana also brought an essential kind of energy to CRAZY EX-GIRLFRIEND on television, during the early seasons while he was in the cast. His Greg, a depressed alcoholic who falls into a weird on/off relationship with Rebecca, a character later revealed to in the throes of borderline personality disorder, was dour and dependent and dark and such a brilliant counterpoint to every other character on the show. And you loved him all the same and the series was poorer for his absence. His version of the character was so much more detailed and interesting than the version of the character introduced in the final season played by Skylar Astin, although I did appreciate the way the show explained the switch. I continue to be surprised that film and television hasn't beaten his door down, but perhaps he threw a cog in that wheel by opting to star in TOOTSIE on Broadway, rather than pursue another series or film work. |
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| re: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 12:57 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
| In reply to: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire - Kerick 12:34 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
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| If the reviews are good, I’ll go. I think it’s a good movie and McLure is a special talent. | |
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| the reviews weren’t that good in seattle | |
| Posted by: dramedy 01:14 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Doubt about Mrs. Doubtfire - KingSpeed 12:57 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
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| And those two songs performed at some event were not that good. But few shows don’t transfer after prebroadway tryout. Mambo King didn’t move after tryout in sf (I’m limiting to commercial prebroadway and not regional enhancement show). And I think Minsky’s at la ahmanson was also prebroadway. Little dancer is another one at Kennedy center and Seattle. So I guess the producers are just moving forward and hoping for the best. | |
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| about Seattle tryout | |
| Posted by: tmdonahue (tmdonahue@yahoo.com) 05:43 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
| In reply to: the reviews weren’t that good in seattle - dramedy 01:14 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
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| For what it's worth, the show is co-produced by Buena Vista Theatrical, which was a unit of Fox which is now owned by Disney, part of Disney Theatrical Group. Is this promising? There's so little history of Buena Vista Theatrical, who can tell? The co-producer, Kevin McCollum has a mixed history, but which producer does not? | |
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| Kevin McCollum "Mixed History" | |
| Posted by: reed23 07:54 am EST 02/16/20 | |
| In reply to: about Seattle tryout - tmdonahue 05:43 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
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| I wish had a "mixed history" as the producer of The Drowsy Chaperone, Avenue Q, Rent, Damn Yankees (1994 Revival), In The Heights, White Christmas, West Side Story (2009 Revival), Motown, Hand To God, Something Rotten!, The Play That Goes Wrong, Six... But I'm sure you were just being silly. |
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| re: about Seattle tryout | |
| Posted by: ryhog 06:11 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
| In reply to: about Seattle tryout - tmdonahue 05:43 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
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| The show is produced by Kevin. Buena Vista merely as "in association with" credit which commonly means that its license was required in order to make things happen, and it will receive points as all or, most likely, part of its remuneration. They are not involved in any aspect of the production that would affect its promise. Kevin's history as a solo producer is, to me at least, less than mixed, but ymmv. | |
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| re: about Seattle tryout | |
| Posted by: mikem 02:05 pm EST 02/16/20 | |
| In reply to: re: about Seattle tryout - ryhog 06:11 pm EST 02/15/20 | |
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| Do you mean "less than mixed"=good or "less than mixed"=bad? If I am reading ibdb correctly, he's had 5 shows on Broadway prior to this season as a solo producer. I think two of them recouped (The Play That Goes Wrong and Motown), but neither was a huge hit. But I think all 5 had some worthiness to them from an audience's point of view: the other 3 were Mike Birbiglia's The New One, Something Rotten!, and Hand to God. | |
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| re: about Seattle tryout | |
| Posted by: ryhog 07:14 pm EST 02/16/20 | |
| In reply to: re: about Seattle tryout - mikem 02:05 pm EST 02/16/20 | |
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| the latter but as I said ymmv :-) | |
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