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| I assume they are speaking Austrian | |
| Posted by: dramedy 05:49 pm EST 02/22/20 | |
| In reply to: re: What’s wrong with “I feel pretty”? - SCH 03:05 pm EST 02/22/20 | |
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| Not German until the nazis show up, who I doubt speak Austrian. | |
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| That's a strange assumption... | |
| Posted by: SCH 08:24 pm EST 02/22/20 | |
| In reply to: I assume they are speaking Austrian - dramedy 05:49 pm EST 02/22/20 | |
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| Since the official language of Austria is German. | |
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| re: I assume they are speaking Austrian | |
| Posted by: showtunetrivia 05:53 pm EST 02/22/20 | |
| In reply to: I assume they are speaking Austrian - dramedy 05:49 pm EST 02/22/20 | |
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| Um, dramedy, Austrians speak German. That was one of Adolf’s arguments for bringing the country into the Greater Reich. Laura |
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| it’s called Austrian German | |
| Last Edit: dramedy 12:48 am EST 02/23/20 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 12:47 am EST 02/23/20 | |
| In reply to: re: I assume they are speaking Austrian - showtunetrivia 05:53 pm EST 02/22/20 | |
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| It’s similar but not the same. There are places in the world where English isn’t spoken anymore like America. |
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| Link | https://blog.lingoda.com/en/german-dialects-vocabulary-differences |
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| re: it’s called Austrian German | |
| Posted by: StageDoorJohnny 01:32 am EST 02/23/20 | |
| In reply to: it’s called Austrian German - dramedy 12:47 am EST 02/23/20 | |
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| Since their official language is German -- without qualifiers -- I'll go with the Austrian governments answer | |
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| re: it’s called Austrian German | |
| Posted by: showtunetrivia 10:51 am EST 02/23/20 | |
| In reply to: re: it’s called Austrian German - StageDoorJohnny 01:32 am EST 02/23/20 | |
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| “Austrian German” is a dialect, not a separate language. What’s more, Captain Von Trapp was born a citizen of the multiethnic mess that was the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, in a region now part of Croatia. He went to the Naval Academy in Rijeka (aka Fiume, where my Nonna was born in 1906*). He lived and had kids born all over the map during the Empire and after the Great War. He didn’t buy the estate near Salzburg until 1924. Meanwhile, the place he was born, in the postwar redrawing of Europe, was now Italian, so he suddenly had Italian citizenship. That’s how he and his family left Austria, showing Italian papers and buying train tickets to Trieste. This lacks the dramatic flair of climbing the Alps while singing. Laura, who owns Georg’s memoirs (his accounts of life on a WWI sub make DAS BOOT look like a picnic, with a poorly educated, multiethnic crew that did all not speak German, and such terrible ventilation that people passed out all the time and sometimes died) *Nonna’s family were typical of the A-H Empire: Italian, Croatian, Slovene. They spoke Italian at home, but had to learn GERMAN and Magyar in school. She remembered when the Archduke was shot, not too far away in Sarajevo. |
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| re: it’s called Austrian German | |
| Posted by: CCentero 11:39 am EST 02/23/20 | |
| In reply to: re: it’s called Austrian German - showtunetrivia 10:51 am EST 02/23/20 | |
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| Refresh my memory--didn't Georg buy everything with his wife's money? | |
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| The Whitehead torpedo | |
| Posted by: showtunetrivia 12:08 pm EST 02/23/20 | |
| In reply to: re: it’s called Austrian German - CCentero 11:39 am EST 02/23/20 | |
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| His first wife was the granddaughter of Robert Whitehead, who invented the torpedo, first tested around 1860 in the bay at Fiume for the Austrian Navy. He developed it with a Italian who had been in the A-H Navy, and his son John. I don’t recall who John married (if she was British or not), but John’s daughter Agathe married Georg. Robert worked on commission for a lot of countries, but sold his patents to UK weapons manufacturer Vickers...and Agathe inherited a lot of money. Robert also had a daughter who married the Austrian who commanded the gunboat that tested the first torpedo. I have a spouse who does a lot of military history (including alternate history, like Germany winning the Great War, and fantasy retelling of the Balkan Wars, etc.). My collection of theatre books is impressive, but the military history here dwarfs it significantly. Laura, historian at large |
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