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| re: the Tonys and Jerry Herman | |
| Posted by: simbo 05:51 am EST 02/23/20 | |
| In reply to: the Tonys and Jerry Herman - Chazwaza 05:15 pm EST 02/22/20 | |
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| I think you're assuming that the Tony voters in 1975 and 1984 were the same people. And I get the feeling Herman had fallen a lot out of fashion by 75 (it's almost impossible to imagine if it had been nominated, it wouldn't have lost to "The Wiz" anyway,). There was a slight feeling from the older members that he was a bit of a latterday arrival who hadn't quite earned his stripes (after all, from "Dolly" he'd been successfully sued for plagarism on the title song and also had an interpolation with "Elegance"), and from the younger members that he was out of touch with contemporary music. His last successful show was already 9 years in the past. And the show had been a fast-folding flop. It's not right, and it's not kind, but it's the case that some scores just aren't appreciated in their time. And Herman was not the kind of composer the 1970s generally were looking for. |
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| re: the Tonys and Jerry Herman | |
| Last Edit: CCentero 10:11 am EST 02/23/20 | |
| Posted by: CCentero 09:59 am EST 02/23/20 | |
| In reply to: re: the Tonys and Jerry Herman - simbo 05:51 am EST 02/23/20 | |
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| I agree with most of your assessment and would add that the old guard had suffered one failure after another during the time when Herman was riding high with two smash hits that contained songs that played endlessly on the radio and TV variety shows. The shows that toured and everyone wanted to do and in stock were Herman shows cheapened by aging stars. I don't think the Dolly plagiarism suit really figured into things all that much and it wasn't all that unusual for a show to contain one or two songs that were written by others. In any event, "Elegance" really isn't an important hit song that Herman got credit for. |
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