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| Charlotte St. Martin interview on reopening Broadway | |
| Posted by: TimDunleavy 02:31 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| Link | Deadline: Reopening Broadway: What Will It Take? What Will It Look Like? When Could It Really Happen? A Candid Conversation With Broadway League President Charlotte St. Martin |
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| i'd like to see air circulation retrofits in theaters | |
| Posted by: dramedy 05:35 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: Charlotte St. Martin interview on reopening Broadway - TimDunleavy 02:31 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| outtake vents at our feet every few rows and intake above us to have a flow of air downward and constant--not just shut off when temperature is reached but constant flow an room temperature. Stagnant air is one of the big problems. | |
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| re: i'd like to see air circulation retrofits in theaters | |
| Posted by: pcot 10:58 pm EDT 04/18/20 | |
| In reply to: i'd like to see air circulation retrofits in theaters - dramedy 05:35 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| I was told once that air circulation usually goes from the back of the stage to the house to help the sound to carry -- once I started looking for it, that seemed to be the pattern, at least in the older houses. There's also usually an emergency venting above the grid, possibly those could be adapted, though it would hurt the sound and draw the audience air up across the stage. Given the height of ceilings, I don't know if there's a ventilation solution for the house comparable to airplanes (like your suggestion) -- my guess is that if the theatres have to somehow operate amid contagion, spacing and tiers will be the order of the day. No more bleachers. Like the State Theatre or the Met, or even some of the smaller LES theatres that have one or two rows of seats per tier. Off-off could just set up chairs appropriately distanced. Perhaps one reason why the groundling-spaces were much cheaper than the tiers in Shakespeare's Globe. ~pcot |
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| On the contrary... | |
| Posted by: gad90210 06:22 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: i'd like to see air circulation retrofits in theaters - dramedy 05:35 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| I think that air circulation just distributes the germs more efficiently from one person to another. | |
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| i disagree | |
| Posted by: dramedy 07:09 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: On the contrary... - gad90210 06:22 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| If it moves from mouth to floor, it should not be passing along to others. I was at the opera this spring and a kid threwup on floor just before curtain. they cleaned it and put kitty litter order eater down. But I would get whiffs of it during the show. so that is a dispersion of smell. IF the flow of air was downward to floor and out a vent, I should not smell anything and germs would follow the same path. | |
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| re: i disagree | |
| Posted by: NewsGuy 10:09 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: i disagree - dramedy 07:09 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| A problem with that being that COVID-19, along with god knows what else, is found to travel on shoes. | |
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| So lingering in the air around you | |
| Posted by: dramedy 02:38 am EDT 04/18/20 | |
| In reply to: re: i disagree - NewsGuy 10:09 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| To inhale is better than on your shoes. | |
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| re: So lingering in the air around you | |
| Posted by: NewsGuy 03:15 pm EDT 04/18/20 | |
| In reply to: So lingering in the air around you - dramedy 02:38 am EDT 04/18/20 | |
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| Not saying that. Just saying it all, in the end, doesn't make a difference as it's quickly turning into one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations with this thing. If it travels on shoes - it's going down the street with you. It's going to your home, it's going on your hands as you take your shoes off, it's going with you to restaurants, the store, the theater .... lions, tigers, bears, oh my! |
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| Link | Looks like I picked the wrong week to not going into the shoe mat sanitizing business |
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| re: Charlotte St. Martin interview on reopening Broadway | |
| Posted by: singleticket 04:47 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: Charlotte St. Martin interview on reopening Broadway - TimDunleavy 02:31 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| At least The League is now certain about not being certain about the pandemic which is a major step up from their dismal initial “show must go on” position. | |
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| re: Charlotte St. Martin interview on reopening Broadway | |
| Posted by: MattPhilly 04:32 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: Charlotte St. Martin interview on reopening Broadway - TimDunleavy 02:31 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| When the latest extension of the shutdown happened, I got the impression that many shows really figured they wouldn't be back until around September. Company's discount code doesn't START until September 8 and runs through January. Mrs. Doubtfire's current discount code runs until July of 2021. Didn't Chicago urge people to rebook starting in September? The shows at Roundabout and LCT that were postponed until fall haven't announced specific dates. I got an email from the Met that they are starting ticket sales on April 27, rather that the previously announced June 21. Their season starts late September. I had hoped to see the new Aida with Netrebko in the early fall but I'll definitely wait to buy tickets. |
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| re: Charlotte St. Martin interview on reopening Broadway | |
| Posted by: larry13 04:51 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Charlotte St. Martin interview on reopening Broadway - MattPhilly 04:32 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| Your paragraph about the Met surprised me and I looked at their website. They're actually starting ticket sales "for patrons" a week earlier than the April 27 date for "single ticket" sales. I understand the Met's desire and need for sales but I really wonder how many people are going to buy tickets for September--or later--even IF they believe the season will start then. The house holds almost 4000 seats and even if, therefore, audiences can be seated further apart than in B'way. theaters, is there any guarantee--let alone promise--that this will be done? | |
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| re: Charlotte St. Martin interview on reopening Broadway | |
| Posted by: MattPhilly 05:09 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Charlotte St. Martin interview on reopening Broadway - larry13 04:51 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| I agree! There are a few things on their schedule that I am definitely interested in (Aida, Die Zauberflote, Don Giovanni) but I plan to hold off on buying as I doubt it will be hard to get tickets closer to the performance date. | |
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| Is this line weird? | |
| Posted by: MockingbirdGirl 03:14 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: Charlotte St. Martin interview on reopening Broadway - TimDunleavy 02:31 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| Broadway audiences sit in tightly packed venues built when audiences expected (and required) smaller, closer seats My impression is that seats have gotten narrower and closer together since these theatres were built due to modern venue owners trying to maximize profits. And why would audiences back then have required smaller, closer seats anyway? Am I misreading this? |
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| re: Is this line weird? | |
| Posted by: singleticket 05:28 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: Is this line weird? - MockingbirdGirl 03:14 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| Yes, seats have been increased gradually over the years according to this article below. | |
| Link | You Can Buy a Seat, but Can You Fit in It? |
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| Tighter seats | |
| Posted by: mattyp4 04:47 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: Is this line weird? - MockingbirdGirl 03:14 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| My impression is that seats have gotten narrower and closer together since these theatres were built due to modern venue owners trying to maximize profits. That definitely sounds like the case for AIRLINES! But in my experiences the newer Broadway theaters have the roomiest seats. |
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| re: Tighter seats /Studio 54 | |
| Posted by: PlazaBoy 01:56 pm EDT 04/18/20 | |
| In reply to: Tighter seats - mattyp4 04:47 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| Are the rear mezz seats at Studio 54 still a nightmare? Even my small framed friends can't endure those seats. | |
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| re: Tighter seats /Studio 54 | |
| Posted by: larry13 02:08 pm EDT 04/18/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Tighter seats /Studio 54 - PlazaBoy 01:56 pm EDT 04/18/20 | |
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| Yes, there's been no change with those seats. | |
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| 2nd Stage's Hayes theatre is ridiculous | |
| Posted by: manchurch03104 10:32 am EDT 04/18/20 | |
| In reply to: Tighter seats - mattyp4 04:47 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| not only are seats smaller and jammed in, but the rows are narrower, too, so it is nearly impossible for your knee not to touch the seat in front of you. I am not renewing my 2nd Stage subscription because of this. | |
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| That's exactly how it was before they bought it | |
| Posted by: Esther 11:08 am EDT 04/18/20 | |
| In reply to: 2nd Stage's Hayes theatre is ridiculous - manchurch03104 10:32 am EDT 04/18/20 | |
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| No legroom improvements were made with the remodeling | |
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| re: Is this line weird? | |
| Posted by: ryhog 03:41 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: Is this line weird? - MockingbirdGirl 03:14 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| Can you give an example of this? My sense is that the older theatres have more of the most unforgiving seats... | |
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| re: Is this line weird? | |
| Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 03:34 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: Is this line weird? - MockingbirdGirl 03:14 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| Yes, the line is very oddly phrased. I think it was meant to reflect that thing we've heard -- that, very generally speaking, people back in the day tended to be a little smaller in terms of both height and girth. So those people didn't require wider seats -- but that meaning is very poorly conveyed in the line in question As for whether modern theaters are more tightly packed, with narrower seats, to maximize profits, than in the past, that again may be generally true, but of course it depends on the venue. I have heard of specific cases where all new, narrower seats were installed in certain theaters to gain one or two more seats per row, which can add up to make a significant difference in terms of box office receipts for a hit. |
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| re: Is this line weird? | |
| Posted by: writerkev 03:25 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: Is this line weird? - MockingbirdGirl 03:14 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| Definitely awkward phrasing, but I think he means to say audiences in days past didn't require such large seats as we do today, with the ballooning of the population. We require bigger seats; he's made it seem they required smaller ones. Weird way to put it. | |
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| re: Charlotte St. Martin interview on reopening Broadway | |
| Last Edit: mikem 03:16 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| Posted by: mikem 03:09 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: Charlotte St. Martin interview on reopening Broadway - TimDunleavy 02:31 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| Tim, thanks -- that was a really interesting and illuminating interview. I wonder when the interview took place, or if it was cobbled together from different interviews. St Martin says the only postponements of spring shows she knows of are Roundabout's, which were announced on March 25 (although she probably knew about it earlier than that), but LCT postponed Flying Over Sunset the day before, Second Stage postponed Take Me Out on Apr 2, and MTC postponed How I Learned to Drive on Apr 7. They talk quite a bit about the announcement that Broadway's on hold until June 7, and Cuomo's response to that announcement, but that was not announced until April 8. But I think the big take-home messages for us are: nothing's re-starting until 6 weeks after Cuomo says it's okay; re-opening won't happen until social distancing is completely over (no every-other-seat arrangement for Broadway); re-opening won't happen if they think they will have to close a few weeks later with a winter resurgence of the virus; and the current thinking is re-opening won't be happening until September at the earliest, and 2021 is not out of the question. Putting all that together, unless a vaccine or effective treatment happens before then, we're looking at spring 2021 for a Broadway re-opening. |
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| re: Spring 2021 for a Broadway re-opening. | |
| Posted by: Dale 03:50 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Charlotte St. Martin interview on reopening Broadway - mikem 03:09 pm EDT 04/17/20 | |
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| Now to get the tourists back! | |
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