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| Posted by: mikem 02:06 pm EDT 04/20/20 | |
| In reply to: Yay! Something that I can comment on with knowledge! - LynnO 06:48 pm EDT 04/19/20 | |
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| (spoilers for Love Never Dies) LynnO, thank you for all the detail! It's been a while since I've seen the show, which I've seen twice - once on Broadway, and once in the Vegas version. Ramin kisses and clutches Sierra back in the filmed version. It's interesting that the US Tour version makes the Phantom more like a stalker and seems to remove any attraction Christine might have to him. That's a contradiction to Love Never Dies. LynnO, I assume you've seen Love Never Dies. I'm curious what your opinion of it is. I saw the US Tour. I enjoyed the music, and I think the title song is beautiful. But, as I think is often true in sequels, the writers feel like they have to create conflict by creating problems where none seemed to exist in the original material. I didn't like the way that Raoul was made out to be kind of a mess and a bad father. And when exactly during the course of events of POTO did Christine and The Phantom make a child? I also don't think the Christine of POTO would have left Raoul for The Phantom in the way that it happens. But the worst part was the end. The show was already making me lose my fondness for the characters, and then when Christine gets shot by Meg Giry and dies, I was sitting there thinking, "How could Andrew Lloyd Webber think that audiences will like this ending?" I guessing he was going for Tragic, but it was just a major downer to me and really left a bad taste in my mouth when exiting the show. I think the score of Love Never Dies is worthy of another attempt at the libretto, but a lot of the current plot needs to be thrown out for the show to be successful IMO. |
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| re: Yay! Something that I can comment on with knowledge! (Spoilers for Love Never Dies) | |
| Last Edit: LynnO 02:38 pm EDT 04/20/20 | |
| Posted by: LynnO 02:31 pm EDT 04/20/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Yay! Something that I can comment on with knowledge! (Spoilers for Love Never Dies) - mikem 02:06 pm EDT 04/20/20 | |
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| Just to clarify, it is the NEW US tour version that is completely restaged and directed and makes the Phantom out to be more of a creepy stalker. The magic was completely sucked out of the show, in my opinion. I hope that they never bring that version to NY. Yes, I have seen LND, and I am not a fan, so you won't catch me making any connections from the wonderful original show to the odd sequel. There are several gorgeous songs in the LOVE NEVER DIES score that I love to hear in concert, however! I think attempting a sequel to POTO was a losing battle on all sides. To answer your question about when The Phantom and Christine create the child, they explain it all in one of the LND songs (Beneath A Moonless Sky). |
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| re: Yay! Something that I can comment on with knowledge! (Spoilers for Love Never Dies) | |
| Posted by: mikem 03:20 pm EDT 04/23/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Yay! Something that I can comment on with knowledge! (Spoilers for Love Never Dies) - LynnO 02:31 pm EDT 04/20/20 | |
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| LynnO, thanks for pointing out where in the text of LND it explains the timeline of The Phantom and Christine's "romance." As I imagine you agree, that they would get together after the course of the events in POTO makes even less sense than it having happened during those events. Christine would not have cheated on Raoul after they were a couple. LND is just character assassination all around. | |
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| re: Yay! Something that I can comment on with knowledge! (Spoilers for Love Never Dies) | |
| Last Edit: WaymanWong 08:41 pm EDT 04/20/20 | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 08:38 pm EDT 04/20/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Yay! Something that I can comment on with knowledge! (Spoilers for Love Never Dies) - LynnO 02:31 pm EDT 04/20/20 | |
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| Yet more questions: Since Charles Hart wrote the lyrics to ''Phantom,'' why didn't he write the lyrics to ''Love Never Dies''? ''Love Never Dies'' has 4 names attached to the book: Lloyd Webber, Ben Elton, Frederick Forsyth and Glenn Slater (who did the lyrics). What's that saying about ''too many cooks ruining the broth''? (Among its songs, however, I do love the soaring ''Til I Hear You Sing.'') |
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| Link | Andrew Ragone: '' 'Til I Hear You Sing'' |
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| re: Yay! Something that I can comment on with knowledge! (Spoilers for Love Never Dies) | |
| Posted by: LynnO 12:36 am EDT 04/21/20 | |
| In reply to: re: Yay! Something that I can comment on with knowledge! (Spoilers for Love Never Dies) - WaymanWong 08:38 pm EDT 04/20/20 | |
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| Ah, like I said, I'm not that deep of a fan to know all those stories, I think you should do the research, Wayman! I adore "'Til I Hear You Sing," (thank you for that link!) and I also love "Beneath a Moonless Sky." |
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