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| It’s really far fetched plot even for a sequel | |
| Posted by: dramedy 12:10 pm EDT 04/23/20 | |
| In reply to: Love Never Dies - jeffef 12:07 pm EDT 04/23/20 | |
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| But i enjoyed watching it a few years ago. I think it’s the Australian version that was recorded. As sequels go, it leaves you with “why bother making it” opinion but it’s a pleasant diversion now. | |
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| re: Such a pity that ALW did not use Frederick Forsyth's draft... | |
| Posted by: bway1430 01:47 am EDT 04/24/20 | |
| In reply to: It’s really far fetched plot even for a sequel - dramedy 12:10 pm EDT 04/23/20 | |
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| Forsyth fleshed it and out and released it as a novel but his take on the story was FAR more interesting. SPOILER: The Phantom owns Coney Island in this version as well and lures Christine to NYC - his first encounter with Christine is in a spook house hall of mirrors where she sees not one Phantom but 16 at once. I would love to have seen that musicalized/staged. |
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| re: It’s really far fetched plot even for a sequel | |
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| Posted by: JereNYC (JereNYC@aol.com) 01:02 pm EDT 04/23/20 | |
| In reply to: It’s really far fetched plot even for a sequel - dramedy 12:10 pm EDT 04/23/20 | |
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| I saw this years ago because a friend had the DVD and I agree that it makes absolutely no sense at all. Like...none. There are plot holes in the original through which one could drive a train, but, at least, the original works on a superficial level if you don't think about it too hard. LOVE NEVER DIES doesn't even give you enough to work with in that sense. But we were trying to think of a plot that might be more plausible for a PHANTOM OF THE OPERA sequel and I think the best that we could come up with was this: that Christine career continued, but never really bore out the promise of her debut, but she continued on, due to Raoul's patronage. At some point, there's a terrible accident, but she survives, due to Raoul's access to the best medical attention money can buy. She recovers, but she's horribly disfigured. Not wanting to be pitied, Raoul and Christine perpetuate the fiction that she's dead and return to Paris where she decides, with Raoul's assistance, to hide in her old mentor's lair in the opera house, just to be able to experience music again without anyone knowing that she's there. She discovers an amazing tenor in the chorus that she thinks has real potential and figures out a way to coach him secretly. Rather than repeat the mistakes of her youthful mentor, Christine tries through more conventional means to draw attention to her protégé, but is increasingly frustrated that he isn't seen as anything more than chorus. Against Raoul's advice, but with his reluctant assistance, she revives the old OG note system, but it goes awry when it's assumed that the murderous psychopath of old has returned. The management goes on the offensive, which results in accidental injuries and deaths as they single-mindedly pursue Christine through the byzantine maze of the opera house and its secret passageways. The tenor, meanwhile, is horrified at the spotlight that's been turned on him as a result of all this because he's just fallen in love with one of the opera's current star baritones and he knows that, if the romance is discovered, both of their careers are over. It all comes to a head when Christine is captured and brought up to the stage and her identity is revealed, to the shock of all. Raoul pleads her case and points out that she didn't cause any harm and that it was the opera management who actually over-reacted and started hurting and killing people. The chorus and the ballet, led by the star baritone revolt against the management and they are forced to resign. Raoul takes over the opera and Christine officially becomes a vocal coach. They finally marry and the tenor and the baritone pursue their romance in relative secrecy. I mean, it's not great. But it's better than LOVE NEVER DIES. |
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| re: It’s really far fetched plot even for a sequel | |
| Posted by: showtunetrivia 01:42 pm EDT 04/23/20 | |
| In reply to: re: It’s really far fetched plot even for a sequel - JereNYC 01:02 pm EDT 04/23/20 | |
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| I like it! Laura |
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| That’s phantom 3 | |
| Posted by: dramedy 01:06 pm EDT 04/23/20 | |
| In reply to: re: It’s really far fetched plot even for a sequel - JereNYC 01:02 pm EDT 04/23/20 | |
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| If Nunsense can have a dozen sequels so can phantom. | |
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| re: It’s really far fetched plot even for a sequel | |
| Posted by: showtunetrivia 12:35 pm EDT 04/23/20 | |
| In reply to: It’s really far fetched plot even for a sequel - dramedy 12:10 pm EDT 04/23/20 | |
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| It’s later than the Aussie one; this one is 2012. I don’t know how different it is from the Aussie production, but I found that one so laughably awful, I’m kinda glad I spent the time. Though now, I’d advise watching it while slightly inebriated. It will help. The plot makes no sense, starting with setting it in 1907, where POTO is set in 1881 (with a prologue in 1911, with older Raoul all alone). So LND says, screw that, we think POTO was set in 1897, cuz it’s now ten years later. And if you think that’s absurd, have fun swallowing the basic premise of LND. Go on, I’ll wait patiently while you choke on it. For my part, it’s an unintentionally hilarious train wreck of a show. Laura, now watching the temp creep towards 92... |
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| I think the voyage to America by the phantom | |
| Posted by: dramedy 12:38 pm EDT 04/23/20 | |
| In reply to: re: It’s really far fetched plot even for a sequel - showtunetrivia 12:35 pm EDT 04/23/20 | |
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| On a sailing or steam ship would have been more interesting and scary than Coney Island setting. | |
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