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re: Does BYE BYE BIRDIE work in 2020?
Last Edit: PlazaBoy 05:38 pm EDT 04/25/20
Posted by: PlazaBoy 05:32 pm EDT 04/25/20
In reply to: re: Does BYE BYE BIRDIE work in 2020? - sirpupnyc 05:09 pm EDT 04/25/20

It was surprisingly bad.

It did contain one bit of business that I thought was wonderful though. During Honestly Sincere in addition to the girls fainting as always, they had at least one of the male chorus faint from excitement/attraction too. it was a sly and fun update, probably not noticeable to everyone.

Like others, I thought the TV version was great.
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Being gay isn't new.
Posted by: KingSpeed 11:44 pm EDT 04/25/20
In reply to: re: Does BYE BYE BIRDIE work in 2020? - PlazaBoy 05:32 pm EDT 04/25/20

A boy fainting over another boy isn't an update. It's just the truth.
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re: When I did it at college....
Posted by: TourBoi 07:08 pm EDT 04/26/20
In reply to: Being gay isn't new. - KingSpeed 11:44 pm EDT 04/25/20

I was the second one who was directed to faint. We had several guys faint actually.
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re: Being gay isn't new.
Last Edit: PlazaBoy 02:33 pm EDT 04/26/20
Posted by: PlazaBoy 02:31 pm EDT 04/26/20
In reply to: Being gay isn't new. - KingSpeed 11:44 pm EDT 04/25/20

I'm pretty sure you knew that I didn't mean being gay was new.

What was new (or updated) was the inclusion/visibility of a boy's attraction to Conrad. The way it was staged, it was clear that the boy was overcome in the same way the girls were. I had not seen that done before. Perhaps you have?

It was deliberate and quite different than having all the boys faint.
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re: Being gay isn't new.
Posted by: Chromolume 11:59 pm EDT 04/25/20
In reply to: Being gay isn't new. - KingSpeed 11:44 pm EDT 04/25/20

I seem to remember that when I played Harry McAfee way back when (I was 13, lol), we ALL ultimately fainted, though I assume the girls did so first.
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re: Being gay isn't new.
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 12:09 am EDT 04/26/20
In reply to: re: Being gay isn't new. - Chromolume 11:59 pm EDT 04/25/20

In the movie, all of the people present -- including all of the guys -- eventually faint at the end of "Honestly Sincere."
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re: Being gay isn't new.
Posted by: Chazwaza 05:10 am EDT 04/26/20
In reply to: re: Being gay isn't new. - Michael_Portantiere 12:09 am EDT 04/26/20

except that is not the same thing... everyone fainting does imply that it's purely a gay sexual attraction (even if it is the power of his sexuality)... one guy fainting along with the girl makes a clear indication that the guy is gay.
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re: Being gay isn't new.
Posted by: Michael_Portantiere 03:53 pm EDT 04/26/20
In reply to: re: Being gay isn't new. - Chazwaza 05:10 am EDT 04/26/20

"Except that is not the same thing... everyone fainting does imply that it's purely a gay sexual attraction (even if it is the power of his sexuality)... one guy fainting along with the girl makes a clear indication that the guy is gay."

Agreed, it makes it much more explicit than the group-fainting scene.
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re: Being gay isn't new.
Posted by: PlazaBoy 02:26 pm EDT 04/26/20
In reply to: re: Being gay isn't new. - Chazwaza 05:10 am EDT 04/26/20

Exactly!
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re: Being gay isn't new.
Last Edit: PlazaBoy 02:35 pm EDT 04/26/20
Posted by: PlazaBoy 02:24 pm EDT 04/26/20
In reply to: re: Being gay isn't new. - Chazwaza 05:10 am EDT 04/26/20

It was about the context. It was clear the boy was attracted to Conrad. Much different than all the boys fainting.
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*doesN'T (typo, sorry) nm
Posted by: Chazwaza 12:41 pm EDT 04/26/20
In reply to: re: Being gay isn't new. - Chazwaza 05:10 am EDT 04/26/20

nm
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re: Being gay isn't new.
Posted by: KingSpeed 03:06 am EDT 04/26/20
In reply to: re: Being gay isn't new. - Michael_Portantiere 12:09 am EDT 04/26/20

Yes, it's a nod to Gone With the Wind with everyone lying down dead. I'm of course saying that showing a young man fainting over Birdie because he is gay is NOT an "update."
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