| re: to everyone defending the use of "flop" | |
| Last Edit: Chazwaza 10:54 pm EDT 06/14/20 | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 10:44 pm EDT 06/14/20 | |
| In reply to: re: to everyone defending the use of "flop" - KingSpeed 10:29 pm EDT 06/14/20 | |
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| making *more* money doesn't seem to be the question... both made money. That's all you need to qualify as a hit, since the only real difference between a flop and a hit in the binary two-term world is being NOT a flop, which simply means returning the investment of the original production. My point was very clearly that Ave Q was not a clear hit when it began and Producers was, but Ave Q ran longer than Producers. No two shows need to run the same amount of performances to make their money back. The length of the run is a much clearer indicator of how long/much the audience was into it than if it happened to make back whatever size investment was put into the production of it. "Flop" for investors is used to reflect the success of the selling of the musical as a *product* vs the investment to sell it. "Flop" for the audience and cultural history is about the success of the *musical* itself. Like I said originally, Sunset Blvd with 1/4 the investment cost and 1/4 the running cost might have run even longer than it did. The Band's Visit with a huge set and bigger cast might have run needed to run 3x as long as it did to make a profit. Neither of these variables does much to change the amount of people who went to see it, which more directly dictates the length of the run, which is what *I* think should be used to better assess if a show is a "flop" or not, for any musical that doesn't return its investment and turn a profit... aka most musicals. |
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